RE: letter to the editor, 11/11

[Evan Daniel Ravitz <evan@xxxxxxxx>]

I bet you're right, Bob. I came up with a way to characterize what
they're doing: They're taking a Federal bribe to buy a system which is
a perfect setup for vote fraud.

Evan

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Mcgrath, Bob___PI_Mkt wrote:

> Then why is there the rush to obtain equipment by Jan. 1st, 2004?  Is it a
> rush to get the federal dollars in time for the Nov. 2004 election?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tiger [mailto:tigerp@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:18 PM
> To: bcv@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: letter to the editor, 11/11
>
>
> January 1st 2006 is the correct date for the HAVA drop-dead date.
>
> Paul Tiger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kellen carey [mailto:kcarey636@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: bcv@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: letter to the editor, 11/11
>
> Ms. Rhodes has indeed written an intelligent and useful letter.  However,
> she somewhat mispeaks when she says HAVA "has mandated that all 50 states
> have computerized voting machines by 2004 elections."
>
> HAVA mandates only that all precincts have an (meaning at least one)
> ADA-compliant voting machine for the disabled.  That means DREs because DREs
> are the only technologies currently capable of allowing the disabled to vote
> privately and unassisted.
>
> There is no mandate that all other voting equipment (i.e. for the 98%
> "abled" voters) be any particular method/technology, as long as it is not
> punch card or lever style voting equipment.  Paper ballots and handcounting
> are perfectly acceptable under HAVA.
>
> Also, I don't think the deadline of 2004 (for ADA compliant voting
> equipment) is correct; I think the correct time by which these systems must
> be up is by Jan 1, 2006.
>
> Please let me know if I am wrong.
>
> kell
>
> Evan Daniel Ravitz <evan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'll invite Donna to tomorrows meeting. She's a longtime friend of
> mine...
>
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Laura Price wrote:
>
> > There is a wonderful letter to the editor in the Camera today that echoes
> many
> > of our sentiments. Not sure if Donna Rhodes is involved with CVV, but
> thought
> > I should share this piece...laura.
> >
> >
> http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/letters_to_editor/article/0,1713,BDC_2491_241
> 7818
> > ,00.html
> >
> > VOTING
> >
> > Electronic systems vulnerable to fraud
> >
> > I challenge the Daily Camera to do some real investigative journalism, to
> be
> > bold, question authority, and uncover the truth about the push for
> computerized
> > voting in the next major election. It is possible that the greatest voter
> fraud
> > in American history is set to take place in the next presidential elec!
> tion, and
> > it will make the last one seem trivial in comparison, unless we citizens
> do
> > something about it.
> >
> > The "Help America Vote Act" has mandated that all 50 states must have
> > computerized voting machines for the 2004 election and Boulder officials
> are in
> > the process of selecting ours. On the surface it appears to make voting
> much
> > easier, but it makes fraud much easier too. The law does not require a
> printout
> > or ballot of our vote and the computer manufacturers are discouraging the
> use
> > of this available technology. Why would anyone be against a verifiable
> paper
> > trail, a check system of sorts? Here are just a few of the problems
> encountered
> > in 2002.
> >
> > In Scurry County, Texas two Republicans won by a landslide when polls had
> been
> > predicting the Democratic candidates to win by a large margin. The county
> clerk
> > demanded a recount both manually and electronically using ! a new computer
> chip
> > and indeed the Democrats did win. A faulty chip was to blame that counted
> > Democratic votes as Republican. They did not demand a recount in Comal
> County,
> > Texas when three Republican candidates received the exact same number of
> votes -
> > 18,181. How likely is this coincidence?
> >
> > In Georgia, the first state to use all-electronic voting, a Republican
> governor
> > was voted into office; the first one since the end of the Civil War, and
> pre-
> > election polls showed the Democratic candidate to be in the lead.
> >
> > Voters in Florida reported touching the screen to vote for the Democratic
> > candidate for governor and having the computer screen show that they had
> voted
> > for the Republican incumbent, Jeb Bush.
> >
> > In Nebraska, Republican Senator Chuck Hagel was the former CEO of ES&S,
> the
> > voting machine manufacturer that supplied all the voting machines for the
> state
> ! > of Nebraska. For more information on this subject check out
> > www.blackboxvoting.com.
> >
> > Talk to our local officials about their options in selecting a
> computerized
> > voting machine for us. Get informed, demand a verifiable paper trail and
> make
> > your vote count!
> >
> > DONNA RHODES, Boulder
> >
>
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