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RE: One more thought on Hart



ES&S got dumped from the running because of ADA considerations. David Bowlin (our blind reviewer) had so much trouble with it that ES&S people had to stay with him to show him how. David’s no dummy, and has excellent computer skills. A DRE that requires hand-holding for ADA compliance with HAVA blows it out of the running.

 

Paul Tiger

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mcgrath, Bob___PI_Mkt [mailto:bob.mcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:00 PM
To: 'paul.tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx'; BCV
Subject: RE: One more thought on Hart

 

When I interviewed my election official in Jeffco, she was aware of the need to prepare for the retrofitting of her ES&S machines to accommodate paper printers, and was proud to report that ES&S was being proactive to prepare such printers for use.  This may be moot if Boulder is not considering them, but may be worth knowing statewide.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tiger [mailto:tigerp@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:01 PM
To: BCV
Subject: FW: One more thought on Hart

The fellow from Avante noted this and I think that it is quite valid. The Hart system uses a brain box that creates a printout with a random number that the voter enters into the DRE to get their ballot to come up. These key numbers time out in ten minutes (adjustable, but not removable). When the lines get long and voters don’t get to a DRE before the key number times out, they go back to the judge and get a new one and try again.

 

In James’ example, a voter could get someone else’s number (just by sneaking a peek) and vote twice. The voter that arrives at the DRE and finds that his or her number doesn’t work will go back to the judges and get a new one, and then vote. The judges would issue a new one based on the idea that the voter’s key number had simply timed out. Even if they were smart enough to figure out that it had been used to cast a vote, it wouldn’t be that voters vote and a really hot argument would ensue.

 

When the election is tallied, the number of votes will exceed the number of voters that came to the polls. However, by that time there will be no way to figure out which ballot to toss.

 

Paul Tiger

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Minadeo [mailto:jminadeo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:07 PM
To: Paul.Tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: One more thought on Hart

 

Paul, 

 

I never really thought about this before.  What if someone looks behind them at someone's PIN number and uses that number to vote then vote's their own number?  Doesn't that mean that someone can vote twice?  In a crowded polling place, this could happen before it can be stopped. 

 

James