RE: FW: One more thought on Hart

["Paul Tiger" <tigerp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Daniel Ravitz [mailto:evan@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:10 PM
To: paul.tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: BCV
Subject: Re: FW: One more thought on Hart


Have you thoroughly inspected the source code for any of these
machines?

Evan

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Paul Tiger wrote:

> The fellow from Avante noted this and I think that it is quite valid. The
> Hart system uses a brain box that creates a printout with a random number
> that the voter enters into the DRE to get their ballot to come up. These
key
> numbers time out in ten minutes (adjustable, but not removable). When the
> lines get long and voters don't get to a DRE before the key number times
> out, they go back to the judge and get a new one and try again.
>
> In James' example, a voter could get someone else's number (just by
sneaking
> a peek) and vote twice. The voter that arrives at the DRE and finds that
his
> or her number doesn't work will go back to the judges and get a new one,
and
> then vote. The judges would issue a new one based on the idea that the
voter
> 's key number had simply timed out. Even if they were smart enough to
figure
> out that it had been used to cast a vote, it wouldn't be that voters vote
> and a really hot argument would ensue.
>
> When the election is tallied, the number of votes will exceed the number
of
> voters that came to the polls. However, by that time there will be no way
to
> figure out which ballot to toss.
>
> Paul Tiger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Minadeo [mailto:jminadeo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: Paul.Tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: One more thought on Hart
>
> Paul,
>
> I never really thought about this before.  What if someone looks behind
them
> at someone's PIN number and uses that number to vote then vote's their own
> number?  Doesn't that mean that someone can vote twice?  In a crowded
> polling place, this could happen before it can be stopped.
>
> James
>
>
>