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RE: C.V.V. Statement



Joe,

Two things:

1.  Hand marked paper ballots with votes counted by a centralized tabulating
system (hand or machine) are the wisest choice that the county can make.
This solution:

	A.  fulfills the requirements of the law

	B.  can be implemented immediately

	C.  does not rely on Boulder County's malfunctioning counting
machines

	D.  allows the dust to settle on the legislative and standards
fronts

	E.  provides time for vendors to respond to the enlightened demand
for vote marking machines that do not record digital votes, and

	F.  is more secure, reliable and accurate than any of the DRE
solutions that have been proposed. 

2.  We know about the State's "certification system" -- don't we?

Al


------------------------
Al Kolwicz
CAMBER - Citizens for Accurate Mail Ballot Election Results
2867 Tincup Circle    Boulder, CO 80305
303-494-1540
AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx 
www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz 

-----Original Message-----
From: joe pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:58 AM
To: bcv@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Paul Tiger
Subject: Re: C.V.V. Statement


This is from Drew Durham at the Secretary of State's office, with 
Marty's permission. We obviously need to discuss this tonight:

See below, but the relevant quote is: The state of Colorado will ask 
that the implementation date for DREs specially equipped for 
individuals with disabilities be extended to January 1, 2006.

Brian Mouty is on the CC list below for the full response from Drew 
Durham.



Date:
Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:17:54 -0700
From:
Drew Durham <drew.durham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
Monty Lambie <mlambie@xxxxxxxxx>
CC:
Bill Compton <Bill.Compton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lisa Doran 
<Lisa.Doran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Brian Mouty 
<brian.mouty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Len Vest<len.vest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Mr. Lambie, in response to your questions, please see the following:
 
	 1.  	What CO counties are in line to purchase new equipment? What

type?
    HAVA requires five counties in the state of Colorado to replace 
punch card systems.  They are:  Mesa, Montrose, Jefferson, Boulder, and 
Pitkin.  This replacement program applies to counties that have already 
replaced their punch card systems after the November 2000 election.  
Jefferson County falls within that class of counties and has already 
replaced its punch card voting systems.  Mesa and Boulder counties have 
RFP's for the purchase of replacement machines.  Pitkin only leased the 
punch card systems and will replace these systems.  Finally, Montrose 
is watching and comparing actions of vendors in response to RFPs, etc. 
in order to make an informed decision.  These systems are to be 
installed by January 1, 2004, but the date can (and in all probability 
will) be extended to January 1, 2006.  You should be advised that the 
counties have the sole authority to purchase equipment.  The Secretary 
of State cannot direct counties as to which system to use.  However, 
the state does use a certification process that requires certification 
prior to purchase.
 
    HAVA also requires each county to purchase a DRE specially equipped 
for individuals with disabilities for each polling location (polling 
location does not equate to "precinct"..  A DRE is a touch screen 
direct recording electronic system.  However, the standards for what 
constitutes a DRE specially equipped for individuals with disabilities 
has not yet been formulated.  As a result, the Secretary of State's 
office is advising counties to wait until the standards and 
requirements are established by the Election Assistance Commission.  
The EAC has not yet been confirmed by the U.S. Senate.  Therefore, 
there are no standards or requirements that outline what is necessary 
to address the accessibility to voting machines issues for the 
disabilities community.  The state of Colorado will ask that the 
implementation date for DREs specially equipped for individuals with 
disabilities be extended to January 1, 2006.






On Nov 20, 2003, at 11:07 AM, Paul Tiger wrote:

> To the list ? so I can stop repeating myself ?
>
>  
>
> BC has card DataVote system that will be outlawed on January 1st of 
> 2004. This must be replaced before the August primary.
>
>  
>
> THERE HAS BEEN NO EXTENSION OF ANYTHING. All the stories that I have 
> seen written on CVV; said to me on the phone; supposedly repeated by 
> town clerks; people who used to work there; etc, ad nauseam are wrong.
>
>  
>
> Brian Mooty of the elections division of the secretary of state?s 
> office has just confirmed this with me by phone. My reading of the 
> HAVA statutes are (and have been) correct.