Re: County: lack of outreach on e-voting issues

["Joe Pezzillo" <jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx>]

Paul-

CVV has absolutely not been attacking the advisory committee, and I 
believe that our press release today, despite its "victorious" tone, 
actually takes special efforts to thank the Elections folks and commend 
their position. And I believe that next to the term "paper ballots" I 
think I probably said "thank you" second most today at the meeting.

Also, it appears as if CVV and the County Clerk's Elections office will 
be trying to work together to some degree to deal with the issue of the 
Colorado Recount Law, and how to get more volunteers and workers for 
the 2004 election. I hope that speaks volumes to our desire to approach 
this issue from a spirit of cooperation between the Elections staff and 
this Citizen's group for the primary benefit of all voters and 
citizens.

I'm not sure I understand your rationale for the public nature of any 
of these e-mails, but because of it, I feel it is important to make 
sure that CVV is not misrepresented, either. I'm not sure that you are 
necessarily saying below that these negative attitudes and factual 
errors are somehow the positions or statements of our group, but I want 
to make sure it is clear that is not the case.

For the record, and especially today, CVV is extremely grateful to the 
County Clerk's office and the Citizen's Committee for their work and of 
course their conclusions. Speaking only for myself, I can also say that 
I have learned a tremendous amount about the election process, and I 
agree, as I stated at the meeting today, that most voters probably 
think only of their brief experience on voting day (or their wait in 
line, perhaps) and rarely if ever consider all the logistical effort 
that goes into an election, from how many ballots to order to L&A tests 
to how heavy the machines are.

I hope that it is absolutely clear to everyone that CVV absolutely 
supports the efforts of Boulder County Elections Staff to own and 
operate the best possible election system for the citizens of Boulder 
County.

I certainly hope this helps put this matter to rest.

Joe



On Dec 12, 2003, at 6:35 PM, Paul Tiger wrote:

> ya think that I should have sent this to Doug as private? No. it was 
> public for a reason.
>
> Some people here have been attacking the advisory committee and the 
> folks at the county openly. I keep hearing how they are NOT CITIZENS. 
> The people seated on both sides of me today were polling judges, but 
> someone in the room later told me that I was sitting between two town 
> clerks. Your facts about who has been serving on this committe suck.
>
> Since when do people that work in government suddenly lose their 
> citizenship or ability to have brain functions, because they do? 
> Everyone there was concerned about the issues. Most were not 
> government lackies as has been repeatedly proported.
> I guess I must be a government lackie as well. I have no ability to 
> think independently, just like all the others. Only members of this 
> group know what is best, and everyone else is an imbicile.
>
> So Doug is involved. That's nice. So what? Why bash people that are 
> actually working hard to make elections happen. They've worked a hell 
> of a lot harder than you or I and you bash them.
>
> And you point in bashing them would be ... to make you feel better 
> about yourself. Go fish!
>
> paul tiger
>
> Joe Pezzillo wrote:
>
> > Before this gets out of hand, for the record, Doug has been an active 
> > contributor to CVV and has worked to increase press and citizen 
> > awareness of this issue for at least as long as I've been involved, 
> > as I met him at the County's weekend citizen review test drive months 
> > ago.
> >
> > Although I appreciate that Paul T. may react strongly to criticism of 
> > County election workers (since he is one, or has been one), I think 
> > it is completely out of line for one member of our group to attack 
> > another or accuse them of not doing enough on this issue.
> >
> > I want to make sure that every citizen is involved in this process, 
> > and so we need to encourage participation, not discourage it.
> >
> > I would like to ask everyone to please be extra mindful and 
> > respectful of everyone's "equality in concern" regarding this issue. 
> > Let's not lose our positive momentum to internal conflict.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Joe