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Re: How to make "representatives" represent




I for one would be fine with trying the "hand counted" paper ballot rallying cry approach as a strategy for stopping DRE use in November, if that's the group's consensus. I would think that it has to be presented as a short term "emergency" type solution per HAVA and vis a vis the SoS' stop orders, so the rest of the research on problems with DREs and proposed vote marking solutions would still be critical to proving the issue. I've been using the terms "100% Paper Ballot" and "Trustworthy Elections" (with the "Secure, Reliable, Verifiable" tag at least once) frequently in recent presentations, and I like the idea of using simpler, easier to remember slogans, also of course for buttons and signs. Proving the point, there was a very nice older lady that rode the bus to the True Majority media event in Denver at the State Capitol on Thursday [where at least 50 people showed up for the mid-morning event to hand-deliver the 2700 faxes that TM Colorado members sent to Donetta Davidson calling for paper security for the coming election], the nice lady brought a homemade cardboard sign with heavy black hand-written marker letters that looked like something you'd see someone holding on the side of the road that said simply "Voters Want Paper Ballots."


Although there's still plenty of work to be done and it's true that hand counting has not been established, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "unsuccessful," at least in the context of CVV. This group has been very successful with the Paper Ballot position and has gotten extensive press coverage for it (repeatedly in the Daily Camera, Colorado Daily, and on KGNU, the feature column in the Denver Post, and no doubt more that I've overlooked), CVV has changed the tenor of the national academic dialog in favor of paper ballot solutions, and last but not least, thanks to the efforts of the dozens of hardworking volunteers of CVV, Boulder County will use only paper ballots for the November 2004 election, that's a huge success for the voters of Boulder County compared to where we were when we started, and we should all celebrate that accomplishment. I too wish we had greater attendance at our recent meetings, but everyone's busy and we did succeed to some degree already for November 2004 here in Boulder County and I definitely want people to keep some "dry powder" (as the venture capitalists like to say) for when the DREs show up on the agenda again next year. Today, the fight needs to go to the other counties in Colorado where they've got all those dang DREs that as it stands are going to be used in November. Jefferson County alone has 1800 DRE units that the SoS fought tooth and nail to keep "as is", and God bless you for anything you can do to make a difference there.

I'm sure you'll join me in thanking everyone who has participated in CVV over the last five months for working diligently on this issue and I hope you will continue to work with us, your contributions, critical feedback and public testimony have been excellent, thank you.

Joe



On Feb 27, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Evan Daniel Ravitz wrote:


Dear voters,


We've been unsuccessful at getting either the Boulder County
Commissioners or the state legislature to do anything significant
to insure fair elections. I was voted "Best Activist" by Boulder
Daily Camera readers. Here's my diagnosis and prescription:

Various Commissioners and legislators have challenged us to prove
we have wide support. I have personally seen how a packed hearing
room can turn both the Boulder City Council and the Commissioners
around. 2 examples: we stopped the giant Safeway which would have
turned N. Broadway into a traffic nightmare (it was later logically
located on 28th St. at the old K-mart site) and we stopped the
giant Selby "church" in Fourmile Canyon, which would have been a
traffic, fire and erosion danger.

If we want lots of people to show up for hearings we need to look
at this as a "marketing" problem. It's pretty easy to get everyone
saying the same thing to representatives to stop something. We held
up signs saying "Wrong Way, Safeway" and wore buttons "No BS
Church"

It's impossible to get everyone to agree on and say we want
"voter-verifiable, full-text paper ballots counted by open-source
software not running on Windows and statistically-significant,
randomly-sampled hand counts" you get the idea. Most people who
care about fair elections don't and won't understand all the tech
stuff and how all the parts interact. So people drift away from our
meetings. The joint CVV/CFVI meeting Wednesday attracted about 15
people, down from 50 who used to attend CVV meetings alone.
Remember, our taxes are paying the County Clerks, etc. to oppose
us, working as amateurs. So we have to be smart.

Today at the CU Business School, the man who wrote the best-selling
intro marketing text "Marketing Management" spoke. His first words
explained what we need: He said consumers have a need for
simplification and a need for risk reduction.

My proposal: Until electronic voting standards (like those coming
from NIST and IEEE) are set and implemented in public software, and
inspected and debugged by thousands of programmers, we should
demand the simplest, most time-tested solution, which according to
the recent MIT/Caltech study is also one of the most accurate:

"HAND-COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS"

Everyone can understand and lobby for it. It fits on a button. It
makes it possible to motivate enough people to force
representatives to represent us. If we do that, it won't matter
what our group is called, how our web site is structured, how
beautiful our PowerPoint presentations are, etc.

Dr. Charles Corry of Colorado Springs, who serves on the IEEE
Voting Standards committee, today joined me in supporting this.

Techies will get their chance to design and perfect the system;
now's the time to temporarily put away the technical debates and
the organizational debates and see if we can agree on a simple,
temporary solution that people understand and support.

If we get dozens of people to write letters to editors asking for
hand-counted paper ballots, attending legislative hearings asking
for hand-counted paper ballots, talking to their neighbors about
hand-counted paper ballots, etc., we have a good chance. It might
sound trite and boring, but that's politics.

This is a perfect example of "Occam's Razor," which says the
simplest solution is best.

If you agree, please respond to this email saying so. If enough do,
let's organize a  short meeting to formalize it and to get started.
You can contact me: evan@xxxxxxxx

Evan

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