Sorry you got the wrong impression from Barry - the annual meeting last 
  night had a pre-scheduled program with invited speakers on the issue of ending 
  discrimination against same-sex couples in Boulder's occupancy ordinance. 
  And  - We may have indeed come up with a good compromise to get this 
  done. 
  But we did not have time to take on other issues last night - so don't take 
  Barry saying you could not speak as a slight to you or the electronic 
  voting issue. 
  We have done lots of work to object to the county's decision to purchase 
  the electronic voting system - I spoke at the commissioners meeting, others 
  from our Board have appeared and raised objections, Joe Pezillo gave a 
  presentation to our Board and we endorsed his objections, we have aligned 
  with Bob McGrath, have asked the state ACLU to review this, 
  etc.  I don't think we are lacking information or advocacy on this 
  issue. 
You know, Evan, despite all the differences and disputes you 
  have had with the ACLU - remember that we are all just a bunch of 
  volunteers who are trying to do good things  - we may come at it from 
  different approaches, but in the end, we are all generally of the same mind on 
  civil liberties and open government issues.  assigning bad motives to 
  misunderstanding or perhaps just inattention doesn't advance our causes much - 
  
Judd 
  
  
----Original Message Follows---- 
From: Evan Daniel Ravitz 
  <evan@xxxxxxxx> 
To: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Barry Satlow 
  <bsat@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: Don't bother with ACLU tonite; apologies 
  for Satlow's insincere invitation 
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:40:57 -0600 
  (MDT) 
Citizens for Verifiable Voting folks, I hope you don't waste 
  your 
time going to the ACLU meeting tonight. Barry Satlow told me 
  
Thursday we could address the multitudes -since it is their annual 
  
meeting. 
But tonight I remembered how I wasted 2 hours to talk 2 
  minutes last 
time I went to a regular ACLU meeting, and how Chair Barry 
  Satlow 
interrupted or just spoke during everyone else's attempts to talk, 
  
except one: Simon Mole, who ranks on the State Board. 
I called 
  Barry just now, and sure enough, he had no intention of 
talking about 
  voting systems tonight, or letting us do so, as he'd 
led me to believe 
  Thursday. 
I have plenty else to say about the current Boulder ACLU, 
  but I quit 
their Board long ago and am done with it. 
Our petition 
  is going swimmingly, which you can see at: 
  
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?hand&1 
  
Last I checked, after 48 hours 121 have volunteered to hand count 
  
the 2004 election. 
Evan 
  
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