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RE: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in DC



Andrew,

 

Please don’t succumb to current legislative proposals because you believe they are, “the best we can get at this date.” 

 

The instant these ineffective proposals would become law, it would strengthen the enemies of voter verified paper ballots as the ballot of count, recount, audit and record

 

It would likely take years before the public would be ready to reconsider the issue.  The wrong candidates and issues would win elections.  Manipulation and errors would go undetected. 

 

To silence critics, it is human nature for officials to do something (anything) even though it does not solve the problem.  AS long as nothing is done, the issue stays open.    

 

Public understanding of the issue is much easier while there is no paper record than it would be if there is a paper record that is not the official record of votes.

 

  1. Implementation of the proposed legislation will not result in trustworthy elections.
  2. Implementation of the proposed legislation will result in reduced voter confidence – the lurking question will be, “I wonder who would have won if we counted the votes that are recorded on paper?”
  3. Once implemented, it will be more difficult for us to convince the public that, To avoid fraud and manipulation, electronic voting systems must use a voter verified paper ballot as the ballot of count, recount, audit and record.”

 

Hang in there and demand what is right.  The legislators don’t want to do the wrong thing.  Don’t help the enemy win the battle. 

 

 

 

Al Kolwicz

Executive Director

 

CAMBER

Citizens for Accurate Mail Ballot Election Results

2867 Tincup Circle

Boulder, CO 80305

303-494-1540

AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx

www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz

http://coloradovoter.blogspot.com 

 

 


From: Andrew G. Silver [mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:21 AM
To: lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in DC

 

About three people have sent me Howard Dean's message, but I think
not to either email list.  I had not realized before that Dean is
really pressing the v-vpat issue, and think it is important that we
all know.  I have gone to the website given in the message, signed
the petition, and joined DFA.

I recognize that the DFA position is not as adequate and unequivocal
as that of CAMBER and the Libertarian Party.   But for the November
election, I advocate supporting HR 2239 and S1980, the best we can
get at this date, and then continue at the elections to demand audits
and recounts where we can.  The one leaflet that I shall prepare will
be focused on supporting HR 2239 and  S 1980, but also mention that
the paper ballot should be the vote of record.

For those of us going to the conference, I am told that DFA is
getting together at 5 PM Friday.  I hope that all of us in these
groups who are attending can meet then.  I shall prepare a
supplemental name badge for myself with "verifiedvoting.org" and
"stopfvotefraud@yahoogroups"  printed on it.



>Howard Dean has sent this message to his mailing list.
>
>
>In order for your vote to affect the outcome of this election, it
>must be counted. As November nears we must act now to ensure that
>our voting systems produce accurate and verifiable results.
>
>Right now, some states are planning to use machines that will not
>allow voters to verify their choices. This means that any flaws in
>the machine or software will never be caught -- and no recount will
>be possible. And the head of the largest e-voting machine company --
>who is a major contributor to George Bush and has promised to
>deliver Ohio to him -- asks that we just trust him.
>
>Today we call on Congress and the states to require any electronic
>voting machine used in this election to produce a paper trail -- one
>that allows voters to verify their choices and officials to conduct
>recounts. Add your name to the call for accountability:
>
><http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verify>http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verify
>
>We will deliver the petition to Congress and the secretaries of
>state of every state planning to use electronic voting machines.
>
>Please forward this message to everyone you know who wants to see
>that every vote is counted this year. You can also spread the word
>by using our grassroots action center, Organize for America, to
>invite your friends to sign the petition:
>
><http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verifyinvite>http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verifyinvite
>
>Casting a vote is the most fundamental action we take as citizens.
>But voting is not a symbolic act -- the last presidential election
>demonstrated that every vote matters. Our responsibility in the
>months before November is to ensure that this time, every vote will
>be counted.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Governor Howard Dean, M.D.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Andrew G. Silver
>To:
><mailto:lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>; <mailto:stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:25 AM
>Subject: [VerifiedVoting.org lobbyists] June 2-4 "Take Back America
>Conference" in DC
>
>For information on the conference see
><http://www.ourfuture.org>www.ourfuture.org.
>
>I shall be attending in the hope of having an opportunity to
>influence personally some of the many political activists attending
>-Howard Dean, Julian Bond, Moveon people, Jim Hightower, et al.
>Though the agenda is very long, they seem to have forgotten about
>verified voting and voter protection.  If anyone else primarily is
>advocating for these issues is going, could you let me know, so that
>we could try to pool our resources and strategies?
>--
>Defending Freedom and Democracy,
>Andy Silver
>Hillsborough, NC
>phone/fax: (919) 245-0277 (h)
>(919) 380-9860, x2405 (o, 9:30 AM - 6:30 PM)
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--
Defending Freedom and Democracy,
Andy Silver
Hillsborough, NC
phone/fax: (919) 245-0277 (h)
(919) 380-9860, x2405 (o, 9:30 AM - 6:30 PM)

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