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Re: Snakes bellies and name calling



Sorry Pete.....
I get pretty wound up about this sort of thing.
Like I said in a post earlier.....
I'm not against the message......I have issues with the messenger.
Intimidation is *not* the way to effect political change.

And I have issues with attacking someone's wife.....
Bringing family into Political discussions is a *mighty* low blow.
Something I wouldn't expect of a true Libertarian........and *that* gets me
upset to no end.

Guess I just fell into the old trap of returning tit for tat.......
When my people are called "thugs" and I'm a "ringleader" and my candidates
wife's politics are denigrated.......
This pisses me off.
Guess I should be more thick skinned, eh?

I apologize to all for lowering myself to their levels.

Bo Shaffer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Klammer" <pklammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Citizens for Verifiable Voting'" <cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:10 AM
Subject: Snakes bellies and name calling


> This is getting pathetic ...
>
> Al Kolwicz, who was there, is known by me to be very specific, detailed,
> accurate, and technically careful.  If his insistence on high standards
from
> public officials rubs them the wrong way, that shouldn't be mistaken for
> pointless badgering.
>
> Look, either the ballot barcodes are alike on multiple ballots, in which
> case they may identify ballot styles, or else they are unique per ballot,
in
> which case they individuate voters.  I can't see Al confusing one
situation
> for the other.
>
> Now, just because YOU have no problem with your ballot being individually
> serialized, does not make it right or legal.  I can find someone who
doesn't
> have a problem with paperless electronic DREs, that doesn't make it right
or
> legal.  I can find someone who doesn't have a problem with voting on
> Microsoft Internet Explorer, or by touch-tone phone; your acquiescence to
> inferior vulnernerable voting systems doesn't make them right or legal.
It
> merely identifies your poor grasp of the implications and inability to
> intelligently comprehend the consequences.  Just because you can't figure
it
> out, doesn't justify name calling.
>
>  --
> Pete Klammer / ACM(1970), IEEE, ICCP(CCP), NSPE(PE), NACSE(NSNE)
>     3200 Routt Street / Wheat Ridge, Colorado 80033-5452
>   (303)233-9485 / Fax:(303)274-6182 / Mailto:PKlammer@xxxxxxx
>  Idealism may not win every contest, but that's not what I choose it for!
>
>
>
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