Re: precincts vs. polling locations.

[Paul E Condon <pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

But why? 

You cannot vote at one of the three polling locations unless they find
you in the computerized roster of voters and print a ballot for you to
vote on, a ballot whose content is determined by the precinct you
reside in. So, they know, as best they will ever know, what pricinct
you belong to. For traditional voting, there is, associated with every
precinct, a polling location. If they want to report results by polling
location, why not call the breakdown a breakdown by polling location. 

Maybe there is a law that requires them to call it a precinct breakdown,
even though it is not.

In the precinct where I was a judge, there were three distinct types of
ballots. Two tiny parts of the precinct had some special tax district
issues that were not on the ballot for the bulk of the voters. It seems
to be that the breakdown should be at the ballot-type level, below the
precinct level. But again, maybe there is a law.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 08:01:17AM -0700, Peter or Alison Richards wrote:
> To:  Jim Burrus
> 
> Cc:  Citizens for Verifiable Voting    (CVV)
>         Roger Lange
>         Ben Pearlman
>         Gary Sanfacon
>         Will Toor
> 
> From:  Peter Richards
> 
> Date:  Monday, 15 Nov. 2004
> 
> Jim;
> 
> Thanks for your explantion below, as to what the three 'extra precincts'
> listed on the Boulder County Clerks website represent.  (see emails
> below)
> 
> My suggestion would be that this be explained on the website, for all to
> see, and not left up to folks to make up their own reasons as to whether
> we have 227 precincts in Boulder County or 230 or what ?
> 
> Paul Tiger was very convinced of what the explanation was for the three
> extra precincts, until you proved him wrong.   (see below)
> 
> There are 227 precincts and 230 polling locations. The precincts plus the
> clerks offices in Longmont, Boulder, and Louisville. 230 = 227 + 3
> Don?t try to make in more mysterious than it is. 
>  
> 
> Could you have the County Clerks office respond to my suggestion, above,
> when they have a chance ?
> 
> Thanks,  Peter Richards
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:59:25 -0700 "Burrus, James"
> <jburrus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> Peter,
>   The number of polling places in Boulder County (precincts) is 227.
> There are three extra "precincts" assigned, respectively, to absentee
> ballots received from overseas for people voting here but with no mailing
> address (such as servicemen and women) for the 2nd and 4th congressional
> districts. There is a third "precinct" that is assigned to landowners who
> are eligible to vote on special taxing district questions (such as the
> Gold Hill and Eldorado Springs questions) who do not live there but can
> vote because they own property that could be taxed.
>    Does that answer your question?
> 
> burrus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter or Alison Richards [mailto:aprichards@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:06 AM
> To: someguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Burrus, James
> Subject: Re: precincts vs. polling locations.
> 
> 
> Date:  Tues., 9 Nov. 2004     07:00 am
> 
> Paul Tiger (Some Guy) and all;
> 
> Thanks for the information, below - precincts vs. polling locations.
> 
> I had asked some of my friends in the local media the same question, and
> they had no idea of what the answer was....
> 
> I have shown the chart below again, which caused the confusion and
> questions.  This is from the Boulder  County Clerk website as of
> yesterday afternoon, Monday.
> 
> On one line, it says 'Completed Precincts: 230 of 230'
> 
> On the same line in the following chart, it say 'Completed Precincts: 227
> of 227'
> 
> Does this explain what you believe is the answer ??
> 
> And following your answer, I would argue there are 231 polling locations
> in Boulder County.
> 
> 1. Boulder County Courthouse
> 2. 33rd St.  County Clerks office.
> 3. Longmont
> 4. Louisville
> 
> 227 precincts  + 4 = 231
> 
> Now what do you say ?
> 
> It would be helpful to all if the County Clerk could explain such
> anomolies, on their website.
> 
> Bye,  Peter Richards
> 
> 
> 
> Boulder County, Colorado 
> 2004 NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION 
> November 2, 2004 
> Unofficial Results for Election - 11/5/2004 7:18:07 PM 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Registration and Turnout 
> Completed Precincts: 230 of 230 
> Reg/Turnout Percentage 
> Total Registered Voters 176224 
> Precinct Ballots Cast 84912 48.2% 
> Early Ballots Cast 41687 23.7% 
> Absentee Ballots Cast 27441 15.6% 
> Total Ballots Cast 154040 87.4% 
> 
> Registration and Turnout 
> Boulder County-All Precincts
> 
> Completed Precincts: 227 of 227 
> Reg/Turnout Percentage 
> Total Registered Voters 13245 
> Precinct Ballots Cast 6745 50.9% 
> Early Ballots Cast 2707 20.4% 
> Absentee Ballots Cast 2261 17.1% 
> Total Ballots Cast 11713 88.4% 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:35:36 -0700 "Some Guy" <someguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
> There are 227 precincts and 230 polling locations. The precincts plus the
> clerks offices in Longmont, Boulder, and Louisville. 230 = 227 + 3
> Don?t try to make in more mysterious than it is. 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter or Alison Richards [mailto:aprichards@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:28 PM
> To: neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: ralphs@xxxxxxxxx; cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: turnout - active vs registered voters vs population....
>  
> Neal;
>  
> Is this the chart you are referring to, in your explanation below.
>  
> Another question - why does one chart say '230 of 230' precincts, and the
> lower chart says '227 of 227' precincts ?
>  
> How many precincts are there in Boulder County ??
>  
> Bye,  Peter Richards
> [|>] 
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Paul E Condon           
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