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RE: Citizens Committee on Election Reform Proposal



The purpose of the committee was to advise the county on which was the best-in-show for DRE.

The only people stuck on the idea (lies; misrepresentation; or simply the inability to read HR3295) that HAVA had a deadline sooner than Jan 06 was the SoS and the media. The only deadline that did exist before 06 was the end-of-life for card punch systems.

Boulder’s card punch readers had all malfunctioned. Only one opto reader still functioned. Paul Danish found some guy in Iowa that rebuilt them and thought that BC would be able to repair theirs and keep using them. The SoS told the Boulder Clerk that this was not doable. And we believed her. But even if we’d continued to use the card system, it would have been terminated by the end of the past election. So spending a something like $100K on revamping a system that we could only use for four more elections didn’t seem wise.

 

So the committee was formed and our job was to pick a DRE.

 

Some people are and were misinformed of the mission of that committee. If asked to do a job and committed to do it, I will do it to the best of my ability. If I see things that look wrong, then I will inform people about it, but if it is outside the scope of my work, all I can do is suggest.

You and I and Al suggested to many others that something wasn’t kosher. Other people got involved and the BOCC was lobbied not to purchase DRE until after the mess had been cleaned up (standards; open source; etc.)

 

The decision by the BOCC to pay for the paper scanners that we have now are part of the result of not buying DREs. After the December 12th BOCC decision not to buy DREs they immediately asked Linda to fill in the blanks.

While members of this group advocated hand counts and changes in legislation to allow for hand recounts or statistical samples: nothing resembling that passed the state assembly.

 

So Boulder had to do something. They could have hand counted the entire county or even parts of it. They didn’t want to, and they didn’t have to.

 

I have to agree that there are procedures and policies that don’t fit in with the way the election is run now, or anything outside of the realm of using the punch card machines. I’d even go further to say that I believe that there were policies and procedures being used in BC elections that should have been ‘fixed’ years ago and should not have been used since Boulder started mail-in elections.

Anyone who participated in the past two mail-in ballot elections held by this county knew that there was little order to the management of the entire schmear. In 03 the issues surrounding SB102 muddied the waters and the elections division was far more worried about how to ID a voter than the security of the entire election. CAMBER takes the lead on these issues and have pointed them out many times.

 

So Kell – you’re correct and I concur, that the clerk’s office has been less than attentive to the planning of this election than we might like. And you’ve worked there and understand some of the issues. Lots of logistical and personnel planning is necessary, but above all – well trained staff.

It’s the training that I have the largest problem with, however that could be just me. I never settle for anything that I am told, my mind is too inquisitive for that.

I have come to realize that it is not that some people don’t care about an issue or can’t see a problem; it is that unintended consequences aren’t something that they even think about. Even if directed to give an issue a larger scope, they don’t succeed because they were never trained to think that way.

 

I many ways I cannot fault Linda Salas for whatever the hell it is that went wrung, because her training is that of a clerk and manager. I don’t expect her to know about thermal effects on the hysteresis characteristics of led emitter/detector pairs in industrial scanners and why overall room temperature is going to affect that. What could be faulted, with more than just Linda, is taking the word of a vendor of a beta product as gospel without testing.

 

paul

 

-----Original Message-----
From: kellen carey [mailto:kcarey636@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:08 PM
To: Cvv-Discuss@Coloradovoter. Net
Subject: RE: Citizens Committee on Election Reform Proposal

 

Paul,

 

You didn't think what was true?

 

That there wasn't any Committee recommendation?  That it was a rubber stamp?  Or what?

 

Basically, CVV arose because the Citizens Review Committee didn't represent the citizens' interests.  Had it genuinely represented the citizenry (or come even remotely close to representing the citizenry) then all the issues 1st raised by people like Kolwicz, you, and me on the Committee (back in August and September 2003) would have been addressed.  Since those issues weren't addressed, or were brushed off, CVV in exasperation/frustration arose.

 

I don't agree County officials were "leaping before they looked."  There was ample info in the public press about the dangers of electronic voting and they knew the dangers and risks involved.  They chose to ignore those problems until CVV (and other citizens around the state and the country) embarrassed them and other election officials into backing down.

 

HAVA never forced squat on them.  All that "deadline by 2004" was absolute bullshit.  Anyone who read HAVA (as I did) could see that.  Absolute bullshit that "everyone must purchase DREs by 2004." 

 

Stop making excuses for poor research, plannning, decisions, and worse implementation.

 

kell