Meaning of "AVVPAT" in P1583

["Pete Klammer" <pklammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Because some anti-paper cryptography zealots are on the committee, the names
and acronyms for voter-verified paper ballots have been extensively
masticated.  Oh, and the disabled won't let anything pass that isn't equally
usable by the blind and the deaf.  "AVVPAT" == Accessible Voter-Verified
Paper Audit Trail.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul E Condon [mailto:pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:33 PM
> To: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Hand Recounts of votes recorded on DREs
> 
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:18:10AM -0800, Arthur Keller wrote:
> > At 11:14 PM -0800 12/6/04, David Aragon wrote:
> > >Barbara Simons wrote:
> > >
> > >> A "hand recount" of paperless DRE votes should come up with
> > >> the same tally that the DRE originally produced, unless the
> > >> DREs are really really broken.
> > >
> > >Clearly it can't detect errors in the recording of votes to
> > >produce the DRE output.  But it can detect errors in the
> > >tallying of those outputs downstream of the DRE's -- which is
> > >certainly an area of concern and potential source of errors.
> > 
> > It can also detect errors in the tallying of votes WITHIN the DREs.
> > 
> > >So it's not pointless.  But neither is it the end-to-end
> > >audit function that "hand recount", with its connotations
> > >of painstaking meticulousness, has formerly meant.
> > 
> > Certainly it is better to have an AVVPAT for each DRE.  But 
> let hand 
> > recounts of DREs go forward with the painstaking auditing 
> process if 
> > there's a chance it's not pointless.  We don't want election 
> > officials deliberately avoiding a great deal of effort by choosing 
> > DREs without AVVPATs.  Be careful what you wish for, you just might 
> > get it.
> 
> Please excuse a question whose answer is obvious to most everyone
> on this list: What does AVVPAT stand for?
> 
> -- 
> Paul E Condon           
> pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>