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Boxes of Ballots found in Adams County


Using mail ballots to steal elections??

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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:44:36 -0700
From: Dr. Charles E. Corry <ccorry@xxxxxxxx>
To: EJF comments <comments@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Boxes of Ballots have been found

    As noted in the thread below, the Adams County (Colorado) Clerk,
Carol Snyder, found 6 trays of between 1,200 and 2,400 uncounted
ballots in mid-November, 2005, after the November 1st election. Ron
Girard has spoken with Carol Snyder and she is apparently blaming the
post office for not delivering these ballots. Personally I am
skeptical of that explanation as my understanding is that the trays
of ballots were found in the clerk's offices. Also the description of
the "trays" better fits what county clerks use to hold ballots rather
than the white boxes used by the US Post Office to deliver envelopes
in bulk.
     I've further discussed this problem with our county clerk and he
relates the ballots had postmarked dates of October 20th and 25th.
The inference is there were two separate batches of ballots.
     I am disinclined to lay the blame on the post office as there
have been many similar experiences with county clerks misplacing
ballots until after an election, e.g., see
http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-59.htm. For those of you who aren't
up on the problems with absentee and mail ballot elections you might
be interested in the other sections of
<http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-52.htm>Lies, Damn Lies, and Mail
In Elections.
     Would anyone with additional information on this problem in Adams
County please contact me. It would also be useful to know what races
and issues might have had their outcome changed with an additional
1,200-2,400 votes?
     Note that anonymous responses are of no value. Please provide
your full name and the city and county where you live if you have
additional information or comments. Phone numbers help as well.
            Thanks,
               Chuck Corry

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Hi Ron,
WOW, this just gets deeper and deeper...I am copying Chuck Corry to
get his input on the issue...I wonder if the clerks office can prove
that the trays weren't delivered until after election...if not, I
would think that the Secretary of State must take action on the
issue.
It would seem that all candidates effected by Adams Co vote should
be challenging this error, no matter who is at fault..but certainly
one more reason that voting in a voting booth is the safest way to
insure voting integrity.
Hope you can get somewhere with this mess.
Sheryle Hutter, VP Equal Justice Foundation

In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:30:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ron65ron@xxxxxxxxx writes:

Dear Sheryle,

I called Carol Snyder the clerk for Adams country (she was very nice
on the phone)and she stated that there were 6 trays of mail
delivered 2 weeks after the election from the post office. In those
6 trays, were undeliverable ballots, ballots with wrong addresses
and ballots post marked from 2 weeks prior to the election.

She stated that becuase they received these ballots after the
election, that by law, they cannot be counted. She stated that we
should contact the post office to see why these ballots were delived
to her office that late with such an early post mark. So it would
appear that there is a problem in the post offices in Adams county,
and not the clerks office or the election commission.

She also stated that they even mailed ballots directly from her
office to people in the same city, and it took 2 weeks for these
people to get their ballots. Again, another problem with the post
office.

If people get their bills etc in a timely manner from all over the
country, how then does it take over 2 weeks to send mail and receive
mail in the same county?

I wonder how we can address this with the post office?

Ron

Rockymtnmom2@xxxxxxx wrote:

Dear Ron,
See below the message that I received from Chuck Corry - EJF (Equal
Justice Foundation) Chuck is a very reliable source and so unless
the clerk got her information wrong it is most certainly true.  If
you care to follow up, I am sure that he can get further information.
Sheryle


Sheryle,
   At a county commission hearing here last Thursday our county
clerk mentioned that in Adams County last November two weeks after
the election 6 trays of uncounted mail ballots turned up with
postmark dates of October 20-21. Gives me real confidence.
          Chuck


In a message dated 1/12/06 12:00:07 PM Mountain Standard Time,
ron65ron@xxxxxxxxx writes:

Dear Sheryl,

Can you fill me in as to the Boxes of ballots that were found in Adams county?

Wayne M. at the State Election Commison and Carol Snyder states that
all the ballots that should have been counted were counted and all
the ballots they were not to count were not counted.

Ron

daniel tudor <tudor007@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From daniel tudor Thu Jan 12 09:12:22 2006
From: "daniel tudor" <tudor007@xxxxxxx>
To: ron65ron@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Voxes of Ballots have been found
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:12:22 -0700

Hi Ron,
I spoke with Sheryl Hutter and here is her e-mail: Rockymtnmom2@xxxxxxxx
E-mail her and she will forward you the e-mail she got regarding this.
I'm at work, so I will talk with you later.
Pat



From: Ron Girard
To: tudor007@xxxxxxx
Subject: Voxes of Ballots have been found
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:17:38 -0800 (PST)

Dear Pat,

 I got a call last night from Francis Maks (he was running for At Large),
stating that Adams county just found a couple of boxes with at least 250
ballots in each box.

 Please call me on my cell phone.

 Thanks

 Ron Girard
 303-472-4060


Ron Girard
AURORA, COLORADO





Ron Girard

AURORA, COLORADO


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