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Re: RFPET Recommendation



All,

Help me out here:

1) Is the Hart system auditable or not?   (Bo says it is, Neal says it isn't.)

2) Closely related, is the Hart system verifiable? 

3) Is the vote tabulating process transparent to average citizens?

4)
If I'm interpreting Bo right, Hart charges the same amount to lease its equipment and software for one year that it sells it for.  Uhhhh, no further questions, Your Honor.

kac

Joe Pezzillo <jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't particularly think another angry thread is useful.

The record is already straight.

There is one and only one person responsible for elections in Boulder
County, and that's the County Clerk. Period.

No one else should be blamed, she ran for the office and wanted the
job because of how qualified she supposedly is, now she hasn't done
it properly (that is, voter confidence is lower now than when she
took office) despite four years on the case.

If she can't do her job, it's not the citizens' fault.

Please don't pick fights here, Bo!

Joe



On Mar 29, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Delta wrote:

> Let me set the record straight....
> (see below)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neal McBurnett [mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:16 AM
>> To: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RFPET Recommendation
>>
>>
>> Attached is a new version of the RFPET Recommendation which has
>> searchable/copyable text.
>>
>> I don't yet see it at the clerk's web site
>>
>> http://www.co.boulder.co.us/clerk/elections/index.htm
>>
>> It is a shame to see the committee not require that the system comply
>> with Colorado law (by producing auditable results) and rush ahead in
>> the face of so many problems.
>
> WRONG! The recommendations say that a real audit must be and *can* be
> performed....
> YOU were instrumental in us recommending that!
>
>
> And the 'bait and switch' from a rental
>> to suggesting that it be bought is a real end-run around the
>> democratic process.
>
> Bullcrap! It is being fiscally responsible.
> Do you know what the leasing price is??? a.b million
> Do you know what the purchase price is??? a.b million
> (I *think* the price is public at this time, but just in case)
> So, which would *you* do? Rent it for a price and then give it
> back, or buy
> it for the same price and then at least have something you could
> sell or
> even scrap....*something*??
> Lease it and you got nada.....there is no other option.
>
>
>>
>> We haven't seen the price yet, but the county should offer the same
>> possibility to other bidders and start the RFP process over, with
>> specific invites to ballot marking vendors and demands that the
>> Secretary of State should certify ballot marking equipment like other
>> states do.
>
> And how does this get us compliant for the election in November????
> You know what *really* pisses me off?
> The Clerk is in this position BECAUSE OF THIS GROUP OF CVV ACTIVISTS!
> YOU pushed to rent not purchase.....
> and when the Clerk got screwed because *nobody* wants to rent ( who
> knew?)
> NOW you jump all over them for trying to salvage the situation?
>
> you're a better man than that, Neal.....
>
>
>>
>> Neal McBurnett http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
>> Signed and/or sealed mail encouraged. GPG/PGP Keyid: 2C9EBA60
>>
>
>




 "Sapere Aude."  Have courage to use your own reason.  Kant


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