Hi Harvie,
I really did not intend for Rebecca to
publish the CMABER list. I suggest that you ignore it and stick with your
own, and add cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and cfvi@xxxxxxx
If you’d like anything sent to the
CAMBER list, please send it to me and I will forward when appropriate.
Al
From: Harvie Branscomb
[mailto:harvie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006
10:41 AM
To: Al Kolwicz
Cc: ken Gordon; ec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: where to begin, whom to
cc to?
Al
Your canvass board web site and email list is very helpful and I hope that Ken
Gordon is paying attention to it. I also hope he is reading the emails I
am cc-ing to him.
( Ken, to learn more about the CanvassBoard group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CanvassBoard
)
I sent an overview of recommendations to Eagle Clerk Teak Simonton yesterday
and want to cc it to others, so I will start with a short list of cc-s, but
please let me know if this below one is a better list. I see it contains some
of the Republican activists in Eagle
County. I got it in an
email from Rebecca Mercuri (the famous voting machine quality
researcher).
I met Rebecca when she was visiting a Hacker friend of mine in California one
time (in this case Hacker means one of a club of technology developers
who probably do not spend their time breaking into machines, and often are
preparing the defense against such break-ins- including Cliff Stoll (The
Cuckoo's Nest) and Tsutomu Shimomura (also a friend of mine)). I have
been asked to lead a session at the Hacker's Conference on Nov 10.
I am also going to get Teak to review my narrative of the previous LAT and
Primary in order to get the irregularities into the public record somewhere,
but particularly somewhere near Ken Gordon.
Overnight it occurs to me that it would be very valuable to obtain a count of
voted blank ballots, by voting location and by voting method. In our
primary, as I stated in the two days ago Vail Daily article (which has now
collected 7 extensive comments
http://apps.vaildaily.com/vd_polls/story-comments.php?sid=60927012&mode=flat&order=0
of which it seems 6 are questioning the DREs ) I personally saw 5 or more blank
VVPATs among just the 200 or so VVPAT records which I personally saw during the
post election audit.
We counted extra ballots in order to achieve a true audit, for which Teak
should be highly commended- there were other ballots counted by other people
who of course did not count the blank ones. I also saw many hundreds of
the paper ballots and did not find one which was blank. THere is clearly
a big difference here and I would like to speculate on what it means. Teak says
in the article that some voters come in to vote just to keep their names on the
rolls, but vote blank ballots. I doubt explanation. I also know
that at least one voter left the polls before finalizing the vote and that
particular vote was not counted, but was logged as a hand written note in the
election judge report. There should be a formal way to publicly report the
number of people whose votes were not counted, either because they failed to
operate the machine correctly, or purposely voted a blank ballot.
I observe that the rate of blank ballot voting is very different between paper
and DRE, and also the rate of blank ballot voting may be different from one
voting location to another (this is probably the effect of different quality
election judges).
It would be very helpful if the post election audit required a reporting of the
number of blank voted ballots. Of course it would also be helpful if the
post election audit report included a space for describing what actually
happened.
There are so many details which lead to questions and possible solutions it is
hard to see where to begin.
How did the following list of email addresses come about... is this the cc list
I should use for Eagle
County canvass board
issues?
Harvie Branscomb
From: "R. Mercuri" <notable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060516)
To: Al Kolwicz <alkolwicz@xxxxxxxxx>
CC: CFVI <cfvi@xxxxxxx>, CVV Steering Committee
<info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Alan Farina'"
<alanfarina@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Alison (Sunny) Maynard"
<amaynard_1@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Anthony Martinez'"
<AnthonySMartinez@xxxxxxx>,
"'Ari Armstrong'"
<ari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Athenia Michel'"
<amichel25@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Barbara Brewer
<brewer62@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Ben Mahrle <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Bill Benton'"
<billbenton31@xxxxxxxx>,
Bill Eckert
<wlleckert@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Bill Fiegel'"
<BILLFIEGEL@xxxxxxx>,
Bill Swenson
<BillSwenson@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Bob Lobis'" <bolo@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Bob Mcgrath'" <bob.mcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Brad Jones'"
<Bradley.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Brad Turner
<bturner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Brian Lewis
<brian.c.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Carl Boydstun
<CDBOYDSTUN@xxxxxxx>,
Carl Schneider <crlkrn@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Carla Selby <thecarla@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Carol Mehesy'"
<cmehesy@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Carol Pfeffer
<gjpandcp@xxxxxxx>,
Carolyn Myers
<FlyingMRanch1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Carolyn S Cox
<carolynscox@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Charles L. King'"
<cking@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Chuck Anderson'"
<cycletourist@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Cindy Espinoza'"
<clespinoza@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Claudia Kuhns
<claudiakuhns@xxxxxxxxxxx>, dafurtney@xxxxxxxxxxx,
Dan Denerstein <feedbo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Dan Gutenkauf'"
<dgutenkauf@xxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Daphne Webb'"
<daphne939@xxxxxxx>,
"'Dariush Rusta'"
<dariushr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Dave Paul'"
<davepaul4@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'David Ellington'"
<davide475@xxxxxxxx>,
"'David Wardrop'"
<dwardrop@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Dean Schooler'"
<sffo@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Debra Puckett'"
<debra_puckett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Dennis Ceremuga'"
<DennisCeremuga@xxxxxxx>,
"'Dennis Polhill'"
<dpolhill@xxxxxxx>,
"'Dick Murphy'"
<dick@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Donna Plutschuck
<donna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Dr. Charles Corry'"
<ccorry@xxxxxxxx>,
Ed Stephens
<edmar460@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Eleanor Binnings
<eleanor134@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Elisabeth Nelson
<RCRW@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Elizabeth Keim'"
<liz.keim@xxxxxxx>,
"'Eric A. Johnson'"
<EricJ@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Fred Holden'"
<FredHolden@xxxxxxx>,
"'George Nowell'"
<george@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Greg Dinger'"
<greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Harvie Branscomb
<Harvie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Henri-Karen Stone'"
<HenriStone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Hillary Hall
<hillary_hall@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Howard Wachtel
<hwachtel@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Jennifer Hoppe'"
<Jen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Jenny Rose Flanagan
<jflanagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Jerry Depew <depew@xxxxxxx>,
"'Jim Egerton'" <egerton_e@xxxxxxx>,
"'Jim Hoffmeister'"
<JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
joan brunwasser <rafijoan@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Joan Howard'"
<jhoward@xxxxxxxx>,
Joan Krawitz
<jkrawitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Joanne Marie Roll'"
<groll36566@xxxxxxx>,
Joe Callahan
<j.c.callahan@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Joe Pezzillo'"
<jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'John Andrews'"
<AndrewsJK@xxxxxxx>,
"'John Hemming'"
<john.hemming@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'John S Wren'"
<JohnSWren@xxxxxxx>,
John Vanderhart
<vanderhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Jon Caldara'"
<jon@xxxxxxx>, "'Joseph C. Cohen'" <jcc@xxxxxxxxx>,
Julie Herrmann
<jules@xxxxxxxxxx>,
"'June Tucker'"
<jtuckercolorado@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Karen Renick
<Karen.renick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Katy Atkinson'"
<K7959@xxxxxxx>, Keith Cabaniss <cabaniss@xxxxxxx>,
Keith Gilmartin
<KeithG1@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Kevin D. Heupel'"
<heupel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Kevin Lundberg'"
<kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, kprobst@xxxxxxx,
Larry Pace
<LarryPaceGOP@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Business Fax <"Larry Weygand
"@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>,
Laura Fee
<impetrioconquest@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Lea Roberts'"
<Yogoroberts@xxxxxx>, Len Vest <lenvest@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Leona Stoecker'"
<stoecker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Lisa McMath'"
<LMcMath@xxxxxxxxx>, Lotus <lotus2323@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Lou Schroeder'"
<ljs80111@xxxxxxx>,
Lynn Cottrell
<LCottrell@xxxxxxx>,
Margit Johansson
<margitjo@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Marilyn Mohling'"
<mmohl3@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Mark Heinrich
<m.heinrich@xxxxxxxx>,
Marty Neilson
<marty5539@xxxxxxxxx>,
Mary Eberle
<m.eberle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Mary in Longmont'" <ioergerm@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Michael Cacioppo'"
<publisher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Mike McSweeney'"
<mikemcs@xxxxxxxxx>,
Monty Lambie
<mlambie@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Nancy Hunter
<edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Nick Jancewicz
<nickjan@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Pam Rhodes <dprhodes@xxxxxxx>,
"'Pat Foust'"
<kftz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Pat Johnson <pj1st@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Pete Klammer'"
<PKlammer@xxxxxxx>,
"'Pete Maysmith'"
<pmaysmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Peter Johnson'"
<peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Peter Raich'"
<peter.raich@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Peter Richards'"
<aprichards@xxxxxxxx>,
"'Phil Perington'" <perington@xxxxxxx>,
"'Ralph Shnelvar'"
<ralphs@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Rebecca Mercuri'"
<mercuri@xxxxxxx>,
Rich Benedict
<rlb4651@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Rita Bertolli
<rita@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Rita Montero'"
<pajarito222@xxxxxxx>,
Rob McGuire
<mcguire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Robert Corry'"
<Robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Robert McNealy'"
<RMcNealy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Rodney Mitchell
<freedom2day2000@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Roger Olds'"
<rogerolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Ronnie Dugger'"
<RDugger123@xxxxxxx>,
"'Sean Murphy'"
<Sean.Murphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Seth Johnson
<seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Sharona Merel Ph. D.'"
<EarthAngelsNTWK@xxxxxxx>,
Sheila Horton <sheila.horton@xxxxxxx>,
Stephanie Frank Singer
<sfsinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Stephen C. Plank'"
<plankdad@xxxxxxx>,
"'Steve Hatfield'"
<Steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Steven P. \"Steve\"
Henneke" <ubiqtorate@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Susan Marie Weber'"
<susanmarieweber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Suzanne Kruesi'"
<SuzanKru@xxxxxxx>,
"TheDogKnows!"
<TheDogKnows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Tiffany Eberle'"
<tiffeberle@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Tim Kitt'"
<Timothy.Kitt@xxxxxxx>, Tim Remple <tim@xxxxxxxxx>,
Tom & Kathy
<fauths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Tom Bjorklund'"
<arbitom@xxxxxxx>, Tom Morris <tmmco1@xxxxxxx>,
"'Tom Stone'"
<Tomstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Troyanne Thigpen
<tcthigpen@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Val Murphy'"
<val@xxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Vincent J. Lipsio'"
<Vince@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Vote Trust Leaders
<VoteTrustLeaders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Wanda Weatherford
<finer299@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Wanda Weatherford2
<finer2_99@xxxxxxxxx>
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Al --
The use of date and time stamps on the ballots also makes them non-anonymous,
so these must NOT be used in lieu of the non-removable ballot identifiers.
There should be NOTHING on the ballots in the form of an identifier at