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Re: SB08-240 fails



The difference between how we do financial transactions over the Internet and how we might (but I hope will not) register to vote over the Internet is that in the former we have a unique password that we use each time we enter the financial Web site. Commonly we get an initial password from the financial institution by telephone or snail mail. No such approach was proposed in SB 240 so far as I know. Margit?

Neal McBurnett wrote:
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 05:24:11PM -0600, Margit Johansson wrote:
Earlier in the day, Harvie told me he was actually for the bill.  I
guess he wasn't moved by my quoting the Report, because after I
spoke, he jumped up and said a few words favoring the bill!  I
first encountered a voting activist in favor of using the internet
in elections a couple of years ago when trying to fight the bill
allowing internet return of voted ballots for overseas military; at
 that time Neal McB said he was for that.  I am interested in
learning more about the rationale for such opinions.  Should we
could make that an agenda item at our next CFVI meeting?

What? Margit, I've never been for returning ballots over the Internet. I certainly publicly opposed UOCAVA.

I've been spending my available time working with folks here and around the country on auditing and haven't studied SB08-240. I don't see anywhere that the SERVE folks actually analyze the registration part much.

I do think that there is an enormous difference between voting online
and doing other election-related things online. The big difference between voting and registration is that voting must be anonymous, but registration is not anonymous - in fact it is a public record. So there are many techniques to deal with problems in registration. We are familiar with them in our online financial dealings: mailing notifications to postal addresses, audit logs which can document everything that everyone did, with all identifiers present, random telephone followup, etc.

I have no idea if SB240 mandated those things, or if the counties could do them securely. But the existing online financial world demonstrates that it can be done pretty securely. And of course that
 there can be problems.  Making it easier to register would be a good
 thing, but I don't know how much this would have helped.  Making the
 tradeoff can be hard, and I don't know where I would stand.

But again, voting anonymously over the internet is insanity, as the SERVE folks said.

Neal McBurnett                 http://mcburnett.org/neal/