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Re: John Gideon wrote on the Hart dust problem reported in Camera back in 2005.



Yes -- the Longmont City special election in January used folded ballots. They could have been folded so as not to interfere with the boxes, but they were folded so that they did. I didn't hear of any issues concerning where the fold was, but I wasn't near the machines. Neal may know better.

Interestingly, the security sleeve for both the November 07 and January 08 elections would not fit back into the mailer once the ballot was completed and inserted. Voters could either tear the glued seam on the sleeve to make it fit (which is what was done in my household) or toss the security sleeve, which is what most voters did.
Longmont elections officials (our clerk) and many voters that I've talked to complained about this in November. However the exact same problem was repeated in January of 08.
Since I voted on the first day of early voting (my mail ballot never arrived), I have no idea what the security sleeve was sized for this time.

Perhaps the security sleeve was the source of the paper dust?

The best way to overcome the Ballot Now systems' issues with tiny particles is NOT TO USE IT. Every November this system has some kind of issue that causes terrible problems. Every year we here the same four words, "How could we know?"
We can know because it does the same thing every time. Neal's tiny dot test proved that Ballot Now cannot discern a vote from an accidental pen swipe.
"How could we know?" makes me want a prescription for the same drugs the clerk's office is taking. Maybe I can forget the last 8 years.

Paul Tiger -- Longmont

Mary Eberle wrote:
These ballots were huge so were folded in quarters to mail. There were tons of mailed ballots this time.

Neal, do you know whether the Longmont City Council special election used folded ballots? The Daily Camera article mentions that the Longmont ballots were created by the same vendor as was used for yesterday's election.

Mary

Mary C. Eberle
1520 Cress Court
Boulder, CO 80304
(303) 442-2164

Margit Johansson wrote:
So why is Boulder County having problems three years later?
(Gideon spoke with someone from the Camera, so maybe there will be more on this in the paper.)
Margit
 
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On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:07 AM, John Gideon <jgideon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jgideon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jgideon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

   Boulder Co is suffering from paper dust and dirt from the ballots.
   This is something that we reported in July 2005 from problems in
   Yakima Co WA.
   http://www.votersunite.org/info/yakimaproblemreport.asp

   All it takes is a can of pressurized air to fix the problem.
   --    John Gideon
   Co-Executive Director
   VotersUnite.Org

   www.votersunite.org <http://www.votersunite.org/> <http://www.votersunite.org/>


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