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Re: efficiency (and civility)



Joe,

I'll be attending the meeting with Bob McGrath tomorrow night. I've drawn up a handout to promote our group 'Coloradoans for Voting Integrity' for use tonight at the Denver Dem Meetup, and since I'm in 'layout and graphic design' mode, was wondering what sort of handout do you need for tomorrow night? I'd be willing to put something together if you give me what details you'd like in it. 
Regards,
Monty Lambie
Coloradoans for Voting Integrity
2801 Youngfield Street, #300
Golden, CO 80401
Tel. 303.231.1031
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yourvotecountscolorado
"Your Vote Counts!"



Evan Daniel Ravitz wrote:
Joe,

I won't be at the meeting or making up a handout. It's insulting to
infer that anyone in our group is against "public, open, educational
and consensus-driven group process" as you do below

During our 2nd meeting, because 20 of the 26 attending had been at the
1st meeting, and because we were playing catch-up with the County
which was about to award a contract to an unsatisfactory vendor, I was
trying to get us down to essential business quickly.

Evan

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, joe pezzillo wrote:

  
[Sorry, forgot the rest of the list on my reply, and another though on
the topic occurred to me:]

Original:
I think that's a great idea. Evan, can you please make up the handout
from what's on the site? Thanks! -Joe

Amended:
On additional thought, however, we have agreed to do a public forum in
conjunction with other groups' efforts, and, as usual, we expect a lot
of first time attendees. Despite the repeated multiple oppositions I
keep hearing, we're (or at least I am) committed to making this a
public, open, educational and consensus-driven group process. That
means meetings where anyone who wants to gets a chance to talk about
the relevant issues, the group mutually works to define its mission
(ie, "the statement"), and everyone is treated as "equals in concern"
despite the varying level of knowledge that any given individual may
have on the topic.

So, another idea is to suggest that people who already consider
themselves experts on the topic not show up until after the public
meeting portion is done, say the first half hour to hour. If you
already know that you're not going to learn anything during the public
education portion, come later. This will also make ample room for what
will hopefully be a much larger audience than last time (almost 50) of
total newcomers who have bits and pieces of the story and want to learn
as much as possible about the issue.

Sorry if this democratic process is a drag to anyone! To me, this group
-- lengthy meetings, ranting emails, the increasing time commitment and
all -- is democracy in action. From my perspective, I can be less
worried about who is in office if we have an truly active and engaged
citizenry, and I think we're all lookin' at it blooming!