Re: recounts in Colorado (under present law) -- The definition of insanity

["LPBC Chairman" <chairman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Evan,
Errors are errors.
Secret ones and conspiracies and all are a bit paranoid.
Stop being a Luddite.
Technology can give us the ability to be error free as well as fraud proof..
We have to mold it to our purposes, not let it take over our process.
This *is* possible.
Just because something has been done for a long time is not a good reason to
continue it. In fact, it's probably a good reason to *not* continue it. This
is a dynamic world we live in and everything has to adapt. To not change is
to stagnate and die.

Bo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Daniel Ravitz" <evan@xxxxxxxx>
To: "LPBC Chairman" <chairman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Paul Tiger" <Paul.Tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "BCV" <bcv@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
"William Crook" <slayer@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: recounts in Colorado (under present law) -- The definition of
insanity


>
> Bo, Canada (20-something million people) and Britain both hand-count
> ballots. It's been done for hundreds of years. The journey of 1000
> miles begins with a single step, counting a million starts with one.
> It's "scalable". I'm sure it's more error prone than computer
> counting, but with the proper measures, those are honest errors
> instead of secret ones which can never be discovered now.
>
> Evan
>
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, LPBC Chairman wrote:
>
> > Evan....
> >
> > Hand counting???
> > a hundred thousand ballots???
> > (in Boulder County alone....)
> > And you think *that* would be more accurate???
> > Maybe someday you should volunteer at the Clerks office and see what it
> > takes to just open and sort ballots by hand......let alone count them.
You
> > would be amazed at the errors people make.
> >
> > We need to come up with a way to make technology work.
> >
> > Bo
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Tiger" <tigerp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Evan Daniel Ravitz" <evan@xxxxxxxx>; <paul.tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "BCV" <bcv@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "William Crook" <slayer@xxxxxxxxx>; "Bo
> > Shaffer" <bo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: recounts in Colorado (under present law) -- The definition
of
> > insanity
> >
> >
> > > No, Ben Franklin actually. Go do your homework.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Evan Daniel Ravitz [mailto:evan@xxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:18 PM
> > > To: paul.tiger@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc: BCV; William Crook; Bo Shaffer
> > > Subject: Re: recounts in Colorado (under present law) -- The
definition of
> > > insanity
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Paul Tiger wrote:
> > >
> > > > "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
and
> > > > expecting different results." -- Benjamin Franklin
> > >
> > > Einstein, actually. State law mandates recounts by the same method as
> > > the original count. That's why I support hand-counting until the State
> > > law is changed; public-source software isn't as good as hand-counting,
> > > but much better than secret software used over and over.
> > >
> > > Evan
> > >
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