It's not just Colorado and Nebraska

[Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all:

I received this from a Libertarian in Arizona.

Ralph Shnelvar





In Arizona, the laws FORBID counting the ballots by hand:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/16/00664.htm&Titl
e=16&DocType=ARS

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A.R.S. 16-664. Recount of votes by automatic tabulating system

A. In the event of a court-ordered recount of votes which were cast and
tabulated on electronic voting equipment for a state primary, state general
or state special election, the secretary of state shall order the ballots
recounted on an automatic tabulating system to be furnished and programmed
by the secretary of state. In the event of a court-ordered recount for
elections other than for the office of supervisor, the secretary of state
may designate the county board of supervisors to perform the duties assigned
to the secretary of state.

B. If the office of secretary of state is contested, the governor shall
order the ballots recounted on an automatic tabulating system to be
furnished and programmed at the direction of the governor.

C. The programs to be used in the recount of votes pursuant to this section
shall differ from the programs prescribed by section 16-445 and used in the
initial tabulation of the votes.  
====================

How can one actually validate the vote, when ballots cannot be manually
counted?  One cannot.

-- Michael Kielsky
Libertarian Candidate for U.S. Congress
Arizona Congressional District 5
http://elect.kielsky.com

Arizona Libertarian Party
http://azlp.org

This year, The "L" Factor!
http://theLfactor.org





-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Shnelvar [mailto:Ralph@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:58 AM
To: Michael Kielsky
Subject: [JewishLibertarians] Continual vote fraud in Arizona for decades?

Dear Michael,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:48:02 PM, you wrote:

[snip]

MK> But, speaking of conspiracies, we have absolute proof that there has
been
MK> continual vote fraud in Arizona for decades.

I am a participant in Colorado's Citizens for Voting Integrity (CFVI)
and we are currently trying to get Colorado to hand-count paper ballots
rather than use Direct Recording of Elections (DRE) machines.

If you have absolute proof of vote fraud in Arizona then I would would
very much like to know about it so that I can determine if this is
something my group would be interested in knowing.

MK> -- Michael Kielsky
MK> Libertarian Candidate for U.S. Congress
MK> Arizona Congressional District 5
MK> http://elect.kielsky.com

MK> Arizona Libertarian Party
MK> http://azlp.org

MK> This year, The "L" Factor!
MK> http://theLfactor.org


Ralph Shnelvar




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