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Re: Improving the LAT (Re: Bad ballot markings)


Paul, Some Dude, you CC'd them and cvv-discuss, not me (see your e-mail of 1:25PM this afternoon, cc'd below, msg 1652 in the archives, URL below). Perhaps you meant to BCC them, but you know how easy it can be to make mistakes when technology is involved. My mistake was to "reply all" not to be the one to add them to the list, although I did have a chat with Ryan this afternoon on the phone. I did not include any of the others this time, just you and CVV-discuss (Hi Tom and Jim, you're fired!)

When it comes to the absentee ballot topic, in general I have always, always said publicly that many people believe that absentee and/or provisional ballots are preferred to DREs because they involve a paper record, but that not everyone supports the idea, in particular, that people are very concerned about mail ballots and provisional ballots not being counted at all.

However, that said, I may very well have been reading a prepared statement about it at that rally, and I think at least a few other people at that rally certainly did speak less categorically in favor of that position.

Also, please note that I was asked by CfVI and True Majority (not CVV) to be the MC at those rallies (and I'm pretty sure they provided the script both times, although of course I like to ad lib a lot). I have specifically not represented myself as a spokesperson (instead "former spokesperson") of CVV in many months. I also always try to make it clear that I am not the expert on any of these topics, just the hot air, instead there are many, many other citizens in Boulder County who have done the hard work of researching the issues and have the patience of Job when it comes to dealing with the Elections Office here. You were present at the potluck where I spoke within the last month or two, I promise you that was typical of what I say, and you'll have to attest I didn't claim to be the spokesperson of CVV, or the expert, and I tried to thank all the many citizen activists present and not.

Today's RMN news article uses the past tense when describing me as CVV spokesperson, because that's what I told him.

So, finally, for the record, I'm not the spokesperson for CVV anymore (which no longer exists as far as I can tell anyway, save this mailing list), and I apologize to this mailing list that this ridiculous semantic argument, misplaced blame and probably unnecessary defense has wasted your time. (And Paul, I regret that I once again said something or came across in a way that highly irritated you, honestly, and will try to be even more careful in the future, thank you.)

Joe

Self-Referential Archive URL: http://coloradovoter.net/bcv-archive/msg01652.html



On Nov 5, 2004, at 1:25 PM, Some Guy wrote:

And yet CVV and CFVI encouraged voters to vote by absentee or provisional to
be on a paper ballot.

sg

-----Original Message-----
From: Neal McBurnett [mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

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DREs are a problem for many Americans.  And in the US I think absentee
ballots are more dangerous even than DREs.

Neal McBurnett
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