Re: Followup - posting results at precincts ?

[Paul E Condon <pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In my opinion, the county officials are in a state of total technical collapse.
They cannot be expected to post results that anyone should believe, and 
unbelievable postings are worse than nothing. IMO, they are nice people who 
are unprepared for their first contact with the modern world. 

Be gentle.

On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 04:21:46PM -0700, Peter or Alison Richards wrote:
> So how do folks find out the respective votes cast for whomever, at each
> local precinct in Boulder County ?
> 
> I just looked through the Boulder County Clerk website, and there is no
> precinct information there.
> 
> Boulder County used to provide this information to us...
> 
> Do other counties provide this information ?
> 

Doesn't really matter whether or not other counties provide it. They
all should provide it, in due course, after the election, after they
have had a chance to do some checking for errors. And maybe Boulder
will. But they screwed up in their roll-out of their new system, and
they need some time to recover.

> Peter Richards
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:46:19 -0700 "Some Guy" <someguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
> > Lisa Doran (SoS) followed up with me by phone. She says that Boulder 
> > County
> > had the 'option' of following 1-7-602, but was not required to do 
> > so.
> > Her interpretation is that since the ballots were counted at a 
> > central
> > location that the only place were the posting of the final counts 
> > would have
> > been necessary to post was at the counting location. I don't 
> > interpret the
> > law that way. And it is apparent that other counties don't interpret 
> > it that
> > way either. Only Boulder County has decided not to post at polling
> > locations.
> > 
> > Anyone have a different idea of what the law says?
> > 
> > Some Guy who thinks he can read
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > <snip>
> > 
> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:23:04 -0700 "Some Guy" <someguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > writes:
> > > Well with more time today I found this in the CRS.
> > >
> > > 1-7-602. Judges to post returns.
> > > Statute text
> > > At any election at a polling place where voting is by paper 
> > ballot,
> > > voting
> > > machine, or electronic or electromechanical voting system, the
> > > election
> > > judges shall make an abstract of the count of votes, which 
> > abstract
> > > shall
> > > contain the names of the offices, names of the candidates, ballot
> > > titles,
> > > and submission clauses of all initiated, referred, or other ballot
> > > issues
> > > voted upon and the number of votes counted for or against each
> > > candidate or
> > > ballot issue. The abstract shall be posted in a conspicuous place
> > > that can
> > > be seen from the outside of the polling place immediately upon
> > > completion of
> > > the counting. The abstract may be removed at any time after
> > > forty-eight
> > > hours following the election. Suitable blanks for the abstract
> > > required by
> > > this section shall be prepared, printed, and furnished to all
> > > election
> > > judges at the same time and in the same manner as other election
> > > supplies.
> > >
> > > However in regards to the way in which things were done in the past
> > > in BC I
> > > found this.
> > >
> > > 1-7-507. Electronic vote-counting - procedure.
> > > (8) Precincts using punch card electronic voting systems shall not
> > > be
> > > required to post the abstract of the count of votes at the 
> > precinct
> > > after
> > > the closing of the polls.
> > > Editor's note: This version of subsection (8) is effective until
> > > January 1,
> > > 2006.
> > >
> > > Statute text
> > > (8) (Deleted by amendment and repealed, L. 2004, pp. 1359, 1361,
> > > ??21, 31,
> > > effective January 1, 2006.)
> > >
> > > It was amended in HAVA, because by 06 punch cards will be illegal.
> > >
> > > Thus, in Boulder County the results of the elections should now be
> > > posted in
> > > all precincts for a period of 48 hours. Now, because the clerk's
> > > office has
> > > finished the tally and is now working on the provisionals.
> > >
> > > I wonder if the law will be followed.
> > >
> > >  Guy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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Paul E Condon           
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