RE: In Ohio they say - Diebold can do it

["Paul Tiger - LPBC - Outreach" <LPBC-O@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I called and talked to Cathy Dreamer, an elections supervisor. This is
misreporting. They've had no problems with their election.

There's no excess and votes and ballots are the same things. Ted Rockwell is
lying, or needs a crash course in addition and subtraction. He's a
philosophy major and should stick to it.
Because of his website and this misstatement they've been fielding calls
from all over the US. They're trying to finish certifying their election and
have been forced to a recount by Badnarik, Cobb, and Nader. Their recount as
absolutely zero to do with overvotes or anything like ballot misconduct.

However, they did use the hanging chad card system.

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Bernstein [mailto:nicholas.bernstein@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:19 PM
To: LPBC-O@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: In Ohio they say - Diebold can do it

Well, we can guess what it means, or we can ask.

I called the Cuyahoga County Board of Election's Ballot Department
Manager (216 443 6454) and left a message. Still waiting to hear back.
I'll keep you posted.

Paul Tiger - LPBC - Outreach wrote:

>I guess you are implying that is what this is.
>I have an activist friend in Ohio and I will ask what he thinks this means,
>but I doubt that it means votes vs voters.
>
>About 18 months ago or so, the president of Diebold promised Bush the
>election in Ohio. I don't recall the exact quote, but it was big news.
>Someone else here probably recalls.
>
>paul - we're in the minority, in that we used paper ballots. Most places
>used some kind of electronic thing, and there are no standards for those;
>everyone is different; and many that failed to work during the primary were
>used again with the same software this time as last.
>Our problems are small and solvable, because we have the ballots. Imagine
>working on an election where a glitch or just bad code ate the election. No
>ballots - poof - all gone.
>
>p
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul E Condon [mailto:pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:17 PM
>To: cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: In Ohio they say - Diebold can do it
>
>Some people chose to use a peculiar definition of "number of votes cast".
>To them, a single voter who votes on a single ballot for both a
presidential
>candidate and a congressional representative, has cast two votes, i.e.
>one person, two votes.
>
>In past elections, where election officials were embarrassed by low voter
>turn out, they used this way of counting to hide the ugly truth. Maybe the
>practice should be stopped.
>
>On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 12:49:12AM -0700, Paul Tiger - LPBC - Outreach
>wrote:
>
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>>93,136 EXTRA Votes Found In ONE Ohio County
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>>http://rense.com/general59/one.htm
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>--
>Paul E Condon
>pecondon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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