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Re: Hand Recounts of votes recorded on DREs



At 11:14 PM -0800 12/6/04, David Aragon wrote:
Barbara Simons wrote:

 A "hand recount" of paperless DRE votes should come up with
 the same tally that the DRE originally produced, unless the
 DREs are really really broken.

Clearly it can't detect errors in the recording of votes to produce the DRE output. But it can detect errors in the tallying of those outputs downstream of the DRE's -- which is certainly an area of concern and potential source of errors.

It can also detect errors in the tallying of votes WITHIN the DREs.


So it's not pointless.  But neither is it the end-to-end
audit function that "hand recount", with its connotations
of painstaking meticulousness, has formerly meant.

Certainly it is better to have an AVVPAT for each DRE. But let hand recounts of DREs go forward with the painstaking auditing process if there's a chance it's not pointless. We don't want election officials deliberately avoiding a great deal of effort by choosing DREs without AVVPATs. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.


Best regards,
Arthur

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