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Re: PRESS 01092005 - Caldara: Swiss system suffers from one gaping hole

It seems to me that one variant of the Swiss method would be to have all the candidates for a given race appear on one sheet of white paper with each candidate in a _printed_ colored block. The blocks could be separated along perforations like coupons or stamps--one per candidate. Similarly, the judges could all appear on one sheet, in two columns: "No" votes would use the printed red "coupons" on the left side and "yes" votes would use the printed green "coupons" on the right side. This approach would simplify the collation of ballots into a packet for the voters of a precinct (i.e., a "ballot style"). Cut-out notches along the paper's margins could help the sorting process as shown in the demonstration of last Monday.

Using white paper with printed colored blocks separated by perforations would also allow the unused pieces of paper to be recycled and would cut down on the "rainbow" color effect by allowing a pattern to be superimposed. For example, all the presidential candidates could appear on one sheet with stripes overlaid on the color blocks. The race for congressional representative could appear with dots. The judges could have little gavels scattered about their ballots. Open space issues would no doubt have owls.

Each sheet could encourage voters to recycle the unused parts.

Mary

Paul Tiger - LPBC - Outreach wrote:

Lou - that might work for a single issue election - like Boulder's upcoming
March election.

However, in the past November election there were 58 ballot styles over 227
precincts. If you showed up in person they could get the BallotNow computer
to print out your ballot style and off you would go.
With the Swiss method they'd have to pick out all the colored slips (a
rainbow full) for your ballot style while you waited. I have my doubts if
they'd get it right, especially if they were doing it all day long for all
the people that showed up. You'd be waiting a while.
Sure - they could generate a pick list like making up an assembly on a bill
of materials, but only certain people are allowed to go into the ballot
vault to get the ballots. A small handful that was just reduced in size two
weeks ago.

So I can see supporting the Swiss method for the March election - one issue;
one ballot style for all - but can't see it for the general election just
yet.

BTW - if you went to 33rd street in March they'd tell you to go to the city
building. This is Boulder's election, not the county's.

paul

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:01:01 -0700
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Subject: PRESS 01092005 - Caldara: Swiss system suffers from one gaping hole


Jon Caldara attended the public presentation of the Swiss Voting System.
Within minutes, Jon correctly assessed the pros and cons of the system.
Please read his evaluation (below) published in today's Boulder Camera.

Al Kolwicz
CAMBER
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To Al K. et al.,

Caldera's "evaluation" is his usual sarcastic mixture of bits of truth,
half-truths, concocted false hypotheticals, and total nonsense.  I would be
far more interested in what Al Kolwicz - whose evaluations garner far more
respect from this Citizen - would put forth after due consideration of the
Swiss responses to his objections such as mail-out/mail-in problems for the
US.

As I understand it, the Swiss can choose to hand-deliver their ballots
right to the ballot box, and are not at all required to mail it in - just
as I have done for many years, not trusting the vagaries of snail mail.
Mailing out could also have the alternative of choice - go down to 33rd
street as I did last October and get the ballot materials in person.

Lou

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