RE: RFP Evaluation Team NDA

["Delta" <delta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gotta admit, I like your style, Neal......;-)
If everyone were like you, I think a lot more could get
accomplished....stuff that NEEDS to be accomplished.

Keep the information flowing.
I'll talk to *you*.....;-)
I enjoy reasonable dissent....it's *very* healthy!

Bo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neal McBurnett [mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: CVV Voting
> Subject: Re: RFP Evaluation Team NDA
>
>
> Folks - it's time to take a few deep breaths.
>
> I think we all are working, in our own way, for a better world, as we
> perceive it.  We of course understand different aspects of the world.
> Progress is difficult and complicated, and we make different
> tradeoffs.  We need to celebrate that, not vilify people for not
> behaving the way *we* want people to behave.
>
> I agree with Bo that perspective is really important, that going
> overboard can be a pain, and that being perceived as a PITA can have
> some pretty counter-productive consequences.  I hope he will help
> counteract the common tendency towards "guilt by association" which
> is prevalent on all sides of this debate.
>
> I also think that there are reasons for some sorts of information to
> be kept private when governments do purchases and negotiations.  But
> if the agreement Joe posted is accurate, it goes way overboard, and
> would certainly make me worry about participation.  Thankfully,
> Shelley Bailey is in the process of re-drafting the agreement to take
> into account the change to an Open Meetings procedure, in which much
> of the information is open.  Hopefully it will encourage the team to
> be open about everything that the public should know about.
>
> Neal McBurnett                 http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
> Signed and/or sealed mail encouraged.  GPG/PGP Keyid: 2C9EBA60
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 03:51:56AM -0700, Delta wrote:
> > There is an axiom in public service/government:
> >
> > The bigger a pain in the ass you are....the less co-operation
> you will get.
> > whether you're right or wrong.
> >
> > There's also a little corollary:
> > Rub elbows with PITAs and you will be considered a PITA, too.
> >
> > I think Neal is seeing ramifications from Crazy Al's actions....
> >
> > Of course, Neal isn't helping any....why is it necessary to see these
> > non-disclosure documents? what the hell do they have to do with choosing
> > election equipment????
> >
> > Not that I don't agree with the Open Meeting laws.....but I see
> them abused
> > too many times.
> >
> > Like now.
> >
> > Everybody in CVV wants to have their two cents counted.....and
> for what??
> > for crissakes, the county is only considering RENTING these
> things for one
> > election.....and we have ONE choice.....how much affect could
> ANYone have on
> > this decision??? And it's entirely temporary!! How much *more*
> will you know
> > about this system if you use it once? and don't hand me that
> conspiracy to
> > defraud the voter crap. EVERYONE involved wants a fair
> election. It's just a
> > matter of what can make it easier without compromising integrity.
> >
> > If you people would give just a friggin iota...and let this
> process continue
> > with *minimal* interference.....you could concentrate your
> resources AND the
> > favors you curry....on the REAL DEAL.....when the County
> chooses a system to
> > BUY.
> >
> > but, nooooo.......
> > Lets play like big shots and demand everything we can to show we have
> > power.....because we can.
> > THAT's why democracy is a very bad form of government. (A quote form the
> > great Roman Statesman, Seneca)
> >
> > Bo Shaffer
>
>