RE: RFP Evaluation Team NDA

["Delta" <delta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So I'm not entitled to my own opinion, eh?
Gotta agree with you or I should just shut up?
you're telling a libertarian that???
How droll....
You should maybe stifle yourself, Evan....

who's on the committee and who ain't?
now, WHY do you think that is?
Oh, right, because those of us on the committee are just puppets.
Tell that to Marty....

Bo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Daniel Ravitz [mailto:evan@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:09 AM
> To: Neal McBurnett
> Cc: CVV Voting
> Subject: Re: RFP Evaluation Team NDA
> 
> 
> 
> For at least these bureaucrats, a "better world" is merely easier for 
> them, and that means passing the buck (responsibility for elections) 
> to whatever company can put on the best show, give them the best 
> perks, etc.
> 
> We have watched Linda Salas and her crew lie repeatedly, violate 
> laws repeatedly, etc.
> 
> Aping congressional Democrats who can't stand up for the Constitution, 
> the People, or anything else, WON'T get us honest, transparent 
> elections.
> 
> Hillary Hall won't stand up either. I asked her at a Hill meeting last 
> week why ONLY machines are considered when hand-counting is better in 
> every way, and she said it wasn't fast enough.
> 
> I for one NEVER beg these miscreants for crumbs. I go to their bosses, 
> the Commissioners, and their bosses, the people, and the 
> intermediaries, the media, and I ask for what I want. The vast 
> majority are behind us and if we stand strong, we may win.
> 
> Bo Shaffer: I advise you to stop the ad hominem against Al Kolwicz and 
> anyone else here. Take your ridicule to some squawk show or rubber 
> room.
> 
> Evan Ravitz
> 1130 11th St. #3
> Boulder CO 80302
> (303)440-6838
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Neal McBurnett wrote:
> 
> > Folks - it's time to take a few deep breaths.
> >
> > I think we all are working, in our own way, for a better world, as we
> > perceive it.  We of course understand different aspects of the world.
> > Progress is difficult and complicated, and we make different
> > tradeoffs.  We need to celebrate that, not vilify people for not
> > behaving the way *we* want people to behave.
> >
> > I agree with Bo that perspective is really important, that going
> > overboard can be a pain, and that being perceived as a PITA can have
> > some pretty counter-productive consequences.  I hope he will help
> > counteract the common tendency towards "guilt by association" which
> > is prevalent on all sides of this debate.
> >
> > I also think that there are reasons for some sorts of information to
> > be kept private when governments do purchases and negotiations.  But
> > if the agreement Joe posted is accurate, it goes way overboard, and
> > would certainly make me worry about participation.  Thankfully,
> > Shelley Bailey is in the process of re-drafting the agreement to take
> > into account the change to an Open Meetings procedure, in which much
> > of the information is open.  Hopefully it will encourage the team to
> > be open about everything that the public should know about.
> >
> > Neal McBurnett                 http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
> > Signed and/or sealed mail encouraged.  GPG/PGP Keyid: 2C9EBA60
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 03:51:56AM -0700, Delta wrote:
> >> There is an axiom in public service/government:
> >>
> >> The bigger a pain in the ass you are....the less co-operation 
> you will get.
> >> whether you're right or wrong.
> >>
> >> There's also a little corollary:
> >> Rub elbows with PITAs and you will be considered a PITA, too.
> >>
> >> I think Neal is seeing ramifications from Crazy Al's actions....
> >>
> >> Of course, Neal isn't helping any....why is it necessary to see these
> >> non-disclosure documents? what the hell do they have to do 
> with choosing
> >> election equipment????
> >>
> >> Not that I don't agree with the Open Meeting laws.....but I 
> see them abused
> >> too many times.
> >>
> >> Like now.
> >>
> >> Everybody in CVV wants to have their two cents counted.....and 
> for what??
> >> for crissakes, the county is only considering RENTING these 
> things for one
> >> election.....and we have ONE choice.....how much affect could 
> ANYone have on
> >> this decision??? And it's entirely temporary!! How much *more* 
> will you know
> >> about this system if you use it once? and don't hand me that 
> conspiracy to
> >> defraud the voter crap. EVERYONE involved wants a fair 
> election. It's just a
> >> matter of what can make it easier without compromising integrity.
> >>
> >> If you people would give just a friggin iota...and let this 
> process continue
> >> with *minimal* interference.....you could concentrate your 
> resources AND the
> >> favors you curry....on the REAL DEAL.....when the County 
> chooses a system to
> >> BUY.
> >>
> >> but, nooooo.......
> >> Lets play like big shots and demand everything we can to show we have
> >> power.....because we can.
> >> THAT's why democracy is a very bad form of government. (A 
> quote form the
> >> great Roman Statesman, Seneca)
> >>
> >> Bo Shaffer
> >
> 
> 
>