RE: RFP Evaluation Team NDA

[Scotty Allen <scotty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wow.  What a quick descent into thinly veiled death threats (for those
others of you who, like me, didn't know what the 'make my day' law is,
see
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/13/1068674285957.html?from=storyrhs).

You all are a bunch of really scary individuals.

Seeing as I don't see a need to fill my inbox with lots of male
postering and threats, I'll take this as my cue to unsubscribe from the
list.

-Scotty

On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 16:04 -0700, Evan Daniel Ravitz wrote:
> Bo:
> 
> Until today this list has been pretty friendly in spite of 
> differences.
> 
> YOU are the difference today. I advise to straighten up and fly right. 
> If you think Al's "crazy" keep it to your ugly self.
> 
> I've been on many email lists for 15 years and watched people like you 
> destroy many of them. I intend to stop that, one way or another.
> 
> You want to express your ugly self? Come over to my place and say your 
> ugly shit in person like a man. And remember Colorado's "make my day" 
> law...
> 
> Evan Ravitz
> 1130 11th St. #3
> Boulder CO 80302
> (303)440-6838
> 
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Delta wrote:
> 
> > Open Government is fine to a point......
> > Annoyance government is counter-productive.
> >
> > Again, if someone doesn't think *exactly* like you then they are worthless,
> > eh, Joe?
> > If they don't do what *you* think they should do, then they are sellouts?
> > Bite me.
> >
> > Read my email.....
> > I said PITAs will get very little co-operation......I didn't say they
> > shouldn't exist.
> > Stop putting YOUR words into MY mouth.
> > That sucks and I think that much less of you.
> >
> > Libertarian philosophy is NOT necessarily ACLU philosophy.....not by a long
> > shot.
> > Get over it.
> >
> > *I'm* on the Committee because I want to see the right things done....not
> > stir up everything for the hell of it and my own aggrandizement.
> > You're welcome to discuss issues and if they are relevant. I'll bring them
> > up to the committee as a whole.
> > But being a PITA will make me that much less interested in what you have to
> > say.....right or wrong.
> >
> > that's the way the world works.....
> >
> > Bo
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:11 AM
> >> To: CVV Voting
> >> Subject: Re: RFP Evaluation Team NDA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think there's another corollary which is kiss up to the incompetent
> >> clerk's office too much and you lose all your credibility.
> >>
> >> Maybe he wanted to see it to see what the panel members signed away
> >> without uttering a peep.
> >>
> >> I would have thought that the Libertarians were as concerned about
> >> open governance as the ACLU, but I guess not.
> >>
> >> Seems like there no end to the "selling out" of the people going on
> >> in politics these days.
> >>
> >> I'll bet old King George found all the original American Patriots to
> >> be pains in the ass, too.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Delta wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is an axiom in public service/government:
> >>>
> >>> The bigger a pain in the ass you are....the less co-operation you
> >>> will get.
> >>> whether you're right or wrong.
> >>>
> >>> There's also a little corollary:
> >>> Rub elbows with PITAs and you will be considered a PITA, too.
> >>>
> >>> I think Neal is seeing ramifications from Crazy Al's actions....
> >>>
> >>> Of course, Neal isn't helping any....why is it necessary to see these
> >>> non-disclosure documents? what the hell do they have to do with
> >>> choosing
> >>> election equipment????
> >>>
> >>> Not that I don't agree with the Open Meeting laws.....but I see
> >>> them abused
> >>> too many times.
> >>>
> >>> Like now.
> >>>
> >>> Everybody in CVV wants to have their two cents counted.....and for
> >>> what??
> >>> for crissakes, the county is only considering RENTING these things
> >>> for one
> >>> election.....and we have ONE choice.....how much affect could
> >>> ANYone have on
> >>> this decision??? And it's entirely temporary!! How much *more* will
> >>> you know
> >>> about this system if you use it once? and don't hand me that
> >>> conspiracy to
> >>> defraud the voter crap. EVERYONE involved wants a fair election.
> >>> It's just a
> >>> matter of what can make it easier without compromising integrity.
> >>>
> >>> If you people would give just a friggin iota...and let this process
> >>> continue
> >>> with *minimal* interference.....you could concentrate your
> >>> resources AND the
> >>> favors you curry....on the REAL DEAL.....when the County chooses a
> >>> system to
> >>> BUY.
> >>>
> >>> but, nooooo.......
> >>> Lets play like big shots and demand everything we can to show we have
> >>> power.....because we can.
> >>> THAT's why democracy is a very bad form of government. (A quote
> >>> form the
> >>> great Roman Statesman, Seneca)
> >>>
> >>> Bo Shaffer
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Some Guy [mailto:someguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:34 AM
> >>>> To: CVV Voting
> >>>> Subject: RE: RFP Evaluation Team NDA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm thinking that you could have asked one of the members of the
> >>>> committee
> >>>> what they had agreed to do or signed and they might have shown
> >>>> you. Showing
> >>>> you the agreement divulges nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Members of this list have signed this document.
> >>>>
> >>>> SG
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:12 PM
> >>>> To: CVV Voting
> >>>> Subject: Re: RFP Evaluation Team NDA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 10, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Neal McBurnett wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The team members also have already signed a confidentiality
> >>>>> agreement
> >>>>> of some sort.  (That will be modified now that they are using the
> >>>>> open
> >>>>> meetings procedures.)  I asked Liss for a copy, and he suggested I'd
> >>>>> need to do an open records request for that.  Amazing - secrecy
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> the secrecy agreements!  It is so infectious it gets downright silly
> >>>>> if you can retain your sense of humor.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I got your open records request right here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >