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Re: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?



Hi Kell,

The paper is similar to the thermal paper used on cash register but is wider (about five inches). Josh Liss said it was stable to 100 degrees F (isn't that right, other attendees?), but I think the paper could turn black from inadvertent exposure to an election judge's car heater blast on a cold November night. Also the temperature in the storage site for the ballots may not be as controlled as the clerk and her staff imagine (think rolling brown outs during very hot weather).

Mary

kellen carey wrote:
Greetings,

I think I heard Josh say that in the event of a recount, a discrepancy between the original electronic tabulation and a recount of paper ballots would be resolved in favor of the paper ballots.

Did state law change, or has it been reinterpreted to where this is clearly the case?

Also, just curious how count-friendly the paper ballots on the Hart system are: i.e. thin, flimsy spooled paper vs. say, the color coded cards of the Swedish system? ( I believe Josh said Hart paper is spooled.)

kell

*/Joe Pezzillo <jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:


    I'm not disputing that members gave testimony, or ultimately if Bo is
    or isn't a member of his own choosing at any given time (although he
    did "back off" from the group in 2004, you may have read).

    I'm disputing the representation that CVV was invited to participate.
    You may recall that it took Neal McBurnett speaking out of turn to
    force the Republican member to acknowledge the public, and I don't
    recall that anyone ever said "I'm here speaking on behalf of CVV".
    Your lawyer was there, she might recall that I complained that CVV
    was not represented (as well as three other citizen action groups),
    and that in fact sometime after that, you must have added the name
    CVV or Citizens for Verifiable Voting to your committee roster.

    Linda clearly represented that CVV was invited to participate on par
    with the other named members such as the League and the parties.

    Show us the invite you sent to CVV to participate, or is there one?
    Who signed the non-disclosure on behalf of CVV? Where is CVV's copy
    of the binder?

    I think you have misrepresented. You are the one who chose to include
    mention of CVV in your report, and Linda is the one who chose to
    attempt to agglomerate the good will of the CVV common law mark and
    confuse the "marketplace" by suggesting an association where none
    exists.

    For servants of the public trust, this type of intentionally
    deceptive behavior is unconscionable.

    I await the invitation to participate or a retraction, you can even
    send a bitmap PDF and I don't think anyone will complain about that
    this time.

    Joe




    Joe Pezzillo
    PO Box J
    Boulder, CO 80306 USA
    jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
    303-938-8850



    On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Liss, Josh wrote:

     > Original email failed to reach some of the intended recipients, so
     > I'll try this again. Please see response below.
     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: Liss, Josh
     > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:39 AM
     > To: '=SMTP:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx'; Salas, Linda;
     > '=SMTP:cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
     > Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne; Bo Shaffer (E-mail)
     > Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
     >
     >
     > Joe,
     >
     > I think you have misunderstood. Linda said a member of Citizens
     > for Verifiable Voting was *ON* the Evaluation Team. Bo Shaffer is
     > a member of CVV, is he not? Hasn't he been a member of CVV for a
     > long time? Has Bo been kicked out of CVV?
     >
     > Linda also said that testimony was heard from such groups as CVV,
     > the Paper Tigers, and the Center for People With Disabilities. As
     > a member of CVV and the Paper Tigers, you did testify before the
     > RFP Evaluation Team, didn't you?
     >
     > The answer to your question is "NO". Linda Salas did not lie to
     > Boulder County.
     >
     > I hope this clarification helps.
     >
     > Thank you,
     >
     > Josh Liss
     > RFP Evaluation Team Chair
     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
     > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:54 PM
     > To: Salas, Linda; Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
     > Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne
     > Subject: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
     >
     >
     >
     > 4/6/2006
     >
     > Boulder County Clerk Linda Salas:
     >
     > Today, in testimony before the Boulder County Commissioners, you
     > stated that Citizens for Verifiable Voting had been invited to
     > participate in your latest RFP evaluation committee.
     >
     > Please immediately produce the invitation you sent to CVV to
     > participate or publicly retract your statements.
     >
     > A Boulder County attorney and the Commissioners have been CC'd on
     > this e-mail.
     >
     > If you do not produce the invitation you claimed you extended to CVV
     > or retract your statements, the next step will be to present this
     > information to the press.
     >
     > You have made false statements before the Boulder County
     > Commissioners before (1/29/2004), I can compile a complete list if
     > necessary.
     >
     > You may make your written statement of retraction to the CVV mailing
     > list, a statement from your staff will not be sufficient.
     >
     > Joe Pezzillo
     > PO Box J
     > Boulder, CO 80306
     > 303-938-8850
     > jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
     >
     >
     >




 "Sapere Aude."  Have courage to use your own reason.  Kant

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