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FW: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County? (bar codes)
While the election RULES do mention bar codes, I cannot find any place in
the STATUTES that would permit the use of bar codes.
Has anybody found a statutory authorization for non-voter-verifiable bar
codes to serve as voter-verifiable paper documents?
I do not believe that the legislators would authorize this.
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Delta [mailto:delta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:31 AM
To: Mary Eberle; kellen carey
Cc: CVV Voting
Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
Need a Bar code reader, too....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Eberle [mailto:m.eberle@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:26 AM
> To: kellen carey
> Cc: CVV Voting
> Subject: Re: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
>
>
> Hi Kell,
>
> The paper is similar to the thermal paper used on cash register but is
> wider (about five inches). Josh Liss said it was stable to 100 degrees F
> (isn't that right, other attendees?), but I think the paper could turn
> black from inadvertent exposure to an election judge's car heater blast
> on a cold November night. Also the temperature in the storage site for
> the ballots may not be as controlled as the clerk and her staff imagine
> (think rolling brown outs during very hot weather).
>
> Mary
>
> kellen carey wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I think I heard Josh say that in the event of a recount, a discrepancy
> > between the original electronic tabulation and a recount of paper
> > ballots would be resolved in favor of the paper ballots.
> >
> > Did state law change, or has it been reinterpreted to where this is
> > clearly the case?
> >
> > Also, just curious how count-friendly the paper ballots on the Hart
> > system are: i.e. thin, flimsy spooled paper vs. say, the color coded
> > cards of the Swedish system? ( I believe Josh said Hart paper
> is spooled.)
> >
> > kell
> >
> > */Joe Pezzillo <jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm not disputing that members gave testimony, or
> ultimately if Bo is
> > or isn't a member of his own choosing at any given time (although he
> > did "back off" from the group in 2004, you may have read).
> >
> > I'm disputing the representation that CVV was invited to
> participate.
> > You may recall that it took Neal McBurnett speaking out of turn to
> > force the Republican member to acknowledge the public, and I don't
> > recall that anyone ever said "I'm here speaking on behalf of CVV".
> > Your lawyer was there, she might recall that I complained that CVV
> > was not represented (as well as three other citizen action groups),
> > and that in fact sometime after that, you must have added the name
> > CVV or Citizens for Verifiable Voting to your committee roster.
> >
> > Linda clearly represented that CVV was invited to participate on par
> > with the other named members such as the League and the parties.
> >
> > Show us the invite you sent to CVV to participate, or is there one?
> > Who signed the non-disclosure on behalf of CVV? Where is CVV's copy
> > of the binder?
> >
> > I think you have misrepresented. You are the one who chose
> to include
> > mention of CVV in your report, and Linda is the one who chose to
> > attempt to agglomerate the good will of the CVV common law mark and
> > confuse the "marketplace" by suggesting an association where none
> > exists.
> >
> > For servants of the public trust, this type of intentionally
> > deceptive behavior is unconscionable.
> >
> > I await the invitation to participate or a retraction, you can even
> > send a bitmap PDF and I don't think anyone will complain about that
> > this time.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe Pezzillo
> > PO Box J
> > Boulder, CO 80306 USA
> > jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
> > 303-938-8850
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Liss, Josh wrote:
> >
> > > Original email failed to reach some of the intended
> recipients, so
> > > I'll try this again. Please see response below.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Liss, Josh
> > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:39 AM
> > > To: '=SMTP:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx'; Salas, Linda;
> > > '=SMTP:cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne; Bo Shaffer (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I think you have misunderstood. Linda said a member of Citizens
> > > for Verifiable Voting was *ON* the Evaluation Team. Bo Shaffer is
> > > a member of CVV, is he not? Hasn't he been a member of CVV for a
> > > long time? Has Bo been kicked out of CVV?
> > >
> > > Linda also said that testimony was heard from such groups as CVV,
> > > the Paper Tigers, and the Center for People With Disabilities. As
> > > a member of CVV and the Paper Tigers, you did testify before the
> > > RFP Evaluation Team, didn't you?
> > >
> > > The answer to your question is "NO". Linda Salas did not lie to
> > > Boulder County.
> > >
> > > I hope this clarification helps.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Josh Liss
> > > RFP Evaluation Team Chair
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:54 PM
> > > To: Salas, Linda; Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
> > > Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne
> > > Subject: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4/6/2006
> > >
> > > Boulder County Clerk Linda Salas:
> > >
> > > Today, in testimony before the Boulder County Commissioners, you
> > > stated that Citizens for Verifiable Voting had been invited to
> > > participate in your latest RFP evaluation committee.
> > >
> > > Please immediately produce the invitation you sent to CVV to
> > > participate or publicly retract your statements.
> > >
> > > A Boulder County attorney and the Commissioners have been CC'd on
> > > this e-mail.
> > >
> > > If you do not produce the invitation you claimed you
> extended to CVV
> > > or retract your statements, the next step will be to present this
> > > information to the press.
> > >
> > > You have made false statements before the Boulder County
> > > Commissioners before (1/29/2004), I can compile a
> complete list if
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > You may make your written statement of retraction to the
> CVV mailing
> > > list, a statement from your staff will not be sufficient.
> > >
> > > Joe Pezzillo
> > > PO Box J
> > > Boulder, CO 80306
> > > 303-938-8850
> > > jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sapere Aude." Have courage to use your own reason. Kant
> >
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