RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?

["Liss, Josh" <jliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is getting old, Joe, and I think you are grasping at straws here.

Bo Shaffer is a member of CVV.

Bo Shaffer was on the RFP Evaluation Team.

A member of CVV was on the Evaluation Team.

1 + 1 = 2

No formal written invitation was sent to any of the Evaluation Team members.  No fancy invitations.  No formal RSVPs.  I called each of the members personally and asked them to participate.  Bo Shaffer (a member of CVV) was INVITED to participate.  He chose to do so and we are glad that he did.  His contributions to the Evaluation Team were invaluable and we appreciate his participation.

It would be a misrepresentation for anyone to imply that CVV was not represented when, in fact:
1. A member of CVV was on the Evaluation Team
2. There were five separate opportunities during the evaluation process for any member of the public to offer testimony, including members of CVV.  Whether they declared their membership or not, members of CVV did testify (yourself included).
3. We received and reviewed several written submissions from members of the public (including members of CVV) during the drafting of the RFP.
4. We received and reviewed several written submissions from members of the public (including members of CVV) during the evaluation process.
5. Several members of CVV offered testimony during yesterday's public hearing.

If you disagree with Bo, that is between you and Bo.  But it is a misrepresentation on your part to imply that CVV was not represented when IT IS A FACT that a member of CVV was on the Evaluation Team.

If you are a member of a political party, but you do not agree with every part of your party's platform, does that disqualify you as a member of that party?  Of course not.  We all have the right to agree to disagree.  That is one of the great things about this country.  Are you trying to say that if a member of CVV disagrees with another member of CVV, that person should not still be considered a member?  

I think it is you who are making misrepresentations when you imply that Linda Salas lied yesterday when you know she did not.  

I'm sure we could go back and forth about this for days/weeks/months, but I have other work that I need to do.  At this point I doubt that any amount of factual information I give you will change your mind or keep you from continuing to make misrepresentations or false innuendo about the Evaluation Team or the Clerk's Office so I think it would be wise for us both to agree to disagree.  After all, that is our right.


Thank you,

Josh Liss

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:50 AM
To: Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Salas, Linda
Subject: Re: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?



I'm not disputing that members gave testimony, or ultimately if Bo is  
or isn't a member of his own choosing at any given time (although he  
did "back off" from the group in 2004, you may have read).

I'm disputing the representation that CVV was invited to participate.  
You may recall that it took Neal McBurnett speaking out of turn to  
force the Republican member to acknowledge the public, and I don't  
recall that anyone ever said "I'm here speaking on behalf of CVV".  
Your lawyer was there, she might recall that I complained that CVV  
was not represented (as well as three other citizen action groups),  
and that in fact sometime after that, you must have added the name  
CVV or Citizens for Verifiable Voting to your committee roster.

Linda clearly represented that CVV was invited to participate on par  
with the other named members such as the League and the parties.

Show us the invite you sent to CVV to participate, or is there one?  
Who signed the non-disclosure on behalf of CVV? Where is CVV's copy  
of the binder?

I think you have misrepresented. You are the one who chose to include  
mention of CVV in your report, and Linda is the one who chose to  
attempt to agglomerate the good will of the CVV common law mark and  
confuse the "marketplace" by suggesting an association where none  
exists.

For servants of the public trust, this type of intentionally  
deceptive behavior is unconscionable.

I await the invitation to participate or a retraction, you can even  
send a bitmap PDF and I don't think anyone will complain about that  
this time.

Joe




Joe Pezzillo
PO Box J
Boulder, CO 80306 USA
jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
303-938-8850



On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Liss, Josh wrote:

> Original email failed to reach some of the intended recipients, so  
> I'll try this again.  Please see response below.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liss, Josh
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:39 AM
> To: '=SMTP:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx'; Salas, Linda;
> '=SMTP:cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne; Bo Shaffer (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
>
>
> Joe,
>
> I think you have misunderstood.  Linda said a member of Citizens  
> for Verifiable Voting was *ON* the Evaluation Team.  Bo Shaffer is  
> a member of CVV, is he not?  Hasn't he been a member of CVV for a  
> long time?  Has Bo been kicked out of CVV?
>
> Linda also said that testimony was heard from such groups as CVV,  
> the Paper Tigers, and the Center for People With Disabilities.  As  
> a member of CVV and the Paper Tigers, you did testify before the  
> RFP Evaluation Team, didn't you?
>
> The answer to your question is "NO".  Linda Salas did not lie to  
> Boulder County.
>
> I hope this clarification helps.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Josh Liss
> RFP Evaluation Team Chair
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:54 PM
> To: Salas, Linda; Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
> Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne
> Subject: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
>
>
>
> 4/6/2006
>
> Boulder County Clerk Linda Salas:
>
> Today, in testimony before the Boulder County Commissioners, you
> stated that Citizens for Verifiable Voting had been invited to
> participate in your latest RFP evaluation committee.
>
> Please immediately produce the invitation you sent to CVV to
> participate or publicly retract your statements.
>
> A Boulder County attorney and the Commissioners have been CC'd on
> this e-mail.
>
> If you do not produce the invitation you claimed you extended to CVV
> or retract your statements, the next step will be to present this
> information to the press.
>
> You have made false statements before the Boulder County
> Commissioners before (1/29/2004), I can compile a complete list if
> necessary.
>
> You may make your written statement of retraction to the CVV mailing
> list, a statement from your staff will not be sufficient.
>
> Joe Pezzillo
> PO Box J
> Boulder, CO 80306
> 303-938-8850
> jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>