This is getting old, Joe, and I think you are grasping at straws here.
Bo Shaffer is a member of CVV.
Bo Shaffer was on the RFP Evaluation Team.
A member of CVV was on the Evaluation Team.
1 + 1 = 2
No formal written invitation was sent to any of the Evaluation Team
members. No fancy invitations. No formal RSVPs. I called each of
the members personally and asked them to participate. Bo Shaffer
(a member of CVV) was INVITED to participate. He chose to do so
and we are glad that he did. His contributions to the Evaluation
Team were invaluable and we appreciate his participation.
It would be a misrepresentation for anyone to imply that CVV was
not represented when, in fact:
1. A member of CVV was on the Evaluation Team
2. There were five separate opportunities during the evaluation
process for any member of the public to offer testimony, including
members of CVV. Whether they declared their membership or not,
members of CVV did testify (yourself included).
3. We received and reviewed several written submissions from
members of the public (including members of CVV) during the
drafting of the RFP.
4. We received and reviewed several written submissions from
members of the public (including members of CVV) during the
evaluation process.
5. Several members of CVV offered testimony during yesterday's
public hearing.
If you disagree with Bo, that is between you and Bo. But it is a
misrepresentation on your part to imply that CVV was not
represented when IT IS A FACT that a member of CVV was on the
Evaluation Team.
If you are a member of a political party, but you do not agree with
every part of your party's platform, does that disqualify you as a
member of that party? Of course not. We all have the right to
agree to disagree. That is one of the great things about this
country. Are you trying to say that if a member of CVV disagrees
with another member of CVV, that person should not still be
considered a member?
I think it is you who are making misrepresentations when you imply
that Linda Salas lied yesterday when you know she did not.
I'm sure we could go back and forth about this for days/weeks/
months, but I have other work that I need to do. At this point I
doubt that any amount of factual information I give you will change
your mind or keep you from continuing to make misrepresentations or
false innuendo about the Evaluation Team or the Clerk's Office so I
think it would be wise for us both to agree to disagree. After
all, that is our right.
Thank you,
Josh Liss
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:50 AM
To: Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Salas, Linda
Subject: Re: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
I'm not disputing that members gave testimony, or ultimately if Bo is
or isn't a member of his own choosing at any given time (although he
did "back off" from the group in 2004, you may have read).
I'm disputing the representation that CVV was invited to participate.
You may recall that it took Neal McBurnett speaking out of turn to
force the Republican member to acknowledge the public, and I don't
recall that anyone ever said "I'm here speaking on behalf of CVV".
Your lawyer was there, she might recall that I complained that CVV
was not represented (as well as three other citizen action groups),
and that in fact sometime after that, you must have added the name
CVV or Citizens for Verifiable Voting to your committee roster.
Linda clearly represented that CVV was invited to participate on par
with the other named members such as the League and the parties.
Show us the invite you sent to CVV to participate, or is there one?
Who signed the non-disclosure on behalf of CVV? Where is CVV's copy
of the binder?
I think you have misrepresented. You are the one who chose to include
mention of CVV in your report, and Linda is the one who chose to
attempt to agglomerate the good will of the CVV common law mark and
confuse the "marketplace" by suggesting an association where none
exists.
For servants of the public trust, this type of intentionally
deceptive behavior is unconscionable.
I await the invitation to participate or a retraction, you can even
send a bitmap PDF and I don't think anyone will complain about that
this time.
Joe
Joe Pezzillo
PO Box J
Boulder, CO 80306 USA
jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
303-938-8850
On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Liss, Josh wrote:
Original email failed to reach some of the intended recipients, so
I'll try this again. Please see response below.
-----Original Message-----
From: Liss, Josh
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:39 AM
To: '=SMTP:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx'; Salas, Linda;
'=SMTP:cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne; Bo Shaffer (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
Joe,
I think you have misunderstood. Linda said a member of Citizens
for Verifiable Voting was *ON* the Evaluation Team. Bo Shaffer is
a member of CVV, is he not? Hasn't he been a member of CVV for a
long time? Has Bo been kicked out of CVV?
Linda also said that testimony was heard from such groups as CVV,
the Paper Tigers, and the Center for People With Disabilities. As
a member of CVV and the Paper Tigers, you did testify before the
RFP Evaluation Team, didn't you?
The answer to your question is "NO". Linda Salas did not lie to
Boulder County.
I hope this clarification helps.
Thank you,
Josh Liss
RFP Evaluation Team Chair
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:54 PM
To: Salas, Linda; Liss, Josh; CVV Voting
Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne
Subject: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
4/6/2006
Boulder County Clerk Linda Salas:
Today, in testimony before the Boulder County Commissioners, you
stated that Citizens for Verifiable Voting had been invited to
participate in your latest RFP evaluation committee.
Please immediately produce the invitation you sent to CVV to
participate or publicly retract your statements.
A Boulder County attorney and the Commissioners have been CC'd on
this e-mail.
If you do not produce the invitation you claimed you extended to CVV
or retract your statements, the next step will be to present this
information to the press.
You have made false statements before the Boulder County
Commissioners before (1/29/2004), I can compile a complete list if
necessary.
You may make your written statement of retraction to the CVV mailing
list, a statement from your staff will not be sufficient.
Joe Pezzillo
PO Box J
Boulder, CO 80306
303-938-8850
jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx