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Re: Fwd: Citizens in the Dark



     Inaccurate lists aren't quite the same as individual voters doing illegal things.  According to investigators like Greg Palast, crooks are creating inaccurate lists to throw legitimate voters off the rolls. The question is, are unsupported allegations of widespread individual voter misbehavior are being used to justify making it harder for certain groups to vote?. 
     Why doesn't the politically-appointed EAC want to release the report? 
(And while we are on the subject of focusing on individuals voters rather than larger-scale fraud, why, in Colorado law, are some penalties for individual voter misbehavior more severe than for election officials tampering with election results, affecting many votes?!) 
Margit

 
On 10/19/06, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am terribly sorry but I have first hand experience with vote fraud.

As you all know by now, I'm a Libertarian so I don't particularly care which
of the two major parties gets into power.  They both are equaling appalling
to me.

Several years ago I was walking a district for a friend in Colorado Springs.
I was working off of an official voter registration list.

Here's the fact: a good 5% of the addresses on the voter registration list
for three precincts did not exist.  I couldn't deliver my packet of
information because there was no house at the address listed.

Form your own conclusion.



We are all interested in the legitimacy of the vote.  When our county
officials and our voting machine vendors ask for our trust, we all sniff.

Why is it that there are people asking us to believe random individuals who
show up at the polls that they are entitled to vote?

As some wit has noted, we ask for more identification from people who want
to cash a $5 check than we do of those who want to vote.

Ralph Shnelvar



On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:49:10 -0600, you wrote:

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>According to *USA Today*, a new report shows there is no evidence that
>significant numbers of voters are lying about their identity at the polls,
>voting twice or voting in the name of dead people. Yet across the country,
>burdensome voter ID bills and other legislation that disenfranchises
>eligible voters are being justified by this made-up epidemic. We deserve to
>know which threats are real and which threats are imaginary.
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>*Please petition the Elections Assistance Commission to release its report
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>*Dear* *Margit**,
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>You've heard the _expression_, "the cure is worse than the disease." Well
>that's especially true when you don't even have the disease in question!
>
>Right-wing members of Congress and state legislators have been passing
>onerous laws that make it harder for citizens to vote. Despite erecting
>barriers to the ballot box and disenfranchising voters, they've claimed
>these laws are necessary to stop rampant voter fraud.
>
>Thanks to a press leak, it is now public that the US Elections Assistance
>Commission (EAC) commissioned a report to find out about voter fraud.
>According to *USA
>Today*<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208154313989333536584265>,
>the EAC's report shows that there is no evidence that significant numbers of
>voters are lying about their identity at the polls, voting twice, or voting
>in the name of dead people. Let me repeat that: NO EVIDENCE.
>
>While this has long been suspected by those of us who have fought
>discriminatory attempts to address "voter fraud" (e.g. voter ID bills that
>would, in effect, create a poll tax for poor, elderly and minority citizens
>who don't have or need government issued ID in their regular lives), the EAC
>report makes it official: voter fraud does not present a health risk to our
>democracy. That is, it *would* be official if the EAC had released it. … But
>it won't release it.
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>*Please petition the EAC to release the report at
>http://www.ReleaseTheReport.com<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208152613989333536584265 >
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>Across the country, states have been introducing legislation requiring
>voters to show identification before voting, preventing eligible voters from
>casting ballots. Indeed, the US Congress has tried to pass national Voter ID
>legislation four times in the last four months – all in the name of stopping
>the one electoral cancer from which we don't appear to be suffering. Worse,
>the mostly Republican legislators who are pushing such "prescriptions" are
>more like doctors who are getting kickbacks for prescribing cancer drugs to
>healthy people, insofar as they are keeping away from the polls voters who
>tend to cast ballots for the other party.
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>on
>its findings. We deserve to know which threats are real and which threats
>are imaginary.*
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