Re: [CFVI] Hand-Counted Paper Ballots in 2008

[Julieann Murphy Cross <jmcross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rosemary Rodriquez telephone number is 303-922-7755 and her aide's name is Denise Perez.  I would start with Denise first. 

 

I would be happy to facilitate a meeting however I am not as versed as the rest of you on the issue so am not sure I would be the best representative or "educator" in this instance.

 

Please advise - Jul

Robert Mcgrath <mcgrath_mcnally@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Someone should contact Rosemary Rodriguez of the Denver City Council to meet
with her to educate her on the issues before she leaves to join the national
EAC committee. That could help forward the issues for the whole country.


>From: "Bruce McNaughton"
>Reply-To: bjmcn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "Margit Johansson"
>CC: "CFVI General Distribution List" ,
> "attendees" , cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [CFVI] Hand-Counted Paper Ballots in 2008
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:51:09 -0800
>
>Yes, I'd like to work on the legislative subcommittee re the paper ballots
>issue.
>I'm not terribly good about getting to meetings, though.
>
>There's a description of how the Canadian ballot-counting process works at
>Lynn Landes excellent site EcoTalk.org. Also, an article about Maine's
>process,
>which is still 80% hand-counted paper ballots. Ah, the feel of real
>democracy!
>I want some! http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingMachines-LegalVoting.htm
>
>Ask your Congressmember to co-sponsor The Paper Ballot Act of 2006
>(HR 6200) introduced by Rep Dennis Kucinich. It amends HAVA to
>require paper ballots in presidential elections, and makes Election Day a
>holiday.
>
>Bruce
>
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Margit Johansson
>To: Bruce McNaughton
>Cc: CFVI General Distribution List; attendees;
>cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: 11/18/2006 7:06:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [CFVI] Hand-Counted Paper Ballots in 2008
>
>
> Just don't forget the requirments of HAVA for voting devices for the
>disabled. Much as the SOS's office has actively tried to convince us
>otherwise, that doesn't mean DRE's are necessary.
> We need to form a legislative committee; maybe a subcommittee would
>investigate the handcounted paper ballots option; there is plenty of
>interest in this in Colorado. Bruce, would you be willing to be on such a
>subcommittee?
> Who else would like to be on the legislative committee?
> Other committees are:a research committee, which will analyze
>election returns; and a voting device committee, which will look into
>possibilities for certification/ re-certification of machines. The small
>voting machine companies have been discouraged from applying for
>certification in Colorado. This has to change; what little I know about it
>suggests that they have some of the better products. (Avante? Populex?)
>Margit
>
>Margit Johansson, CFVI
>303-442-1668/ margitjo@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>On 11/17/06, Bruce McNaughton wrote:
>Harnassing the anger generated by the Denver Election Debacle of 2006 and
>celebrating the introduction of the Paper Ballot Act of 2006 by Dennis
>Kucinich
>(HR 6200) http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/10/03/18317658.php , I
>hope
>we can move beyond the 'we can't make it work here' mentality regarding
>accu-
>rate and transparent elections, and work to make our election process a
>thing
>we can be proud of.
>
>A protocol for hand-counted paper ballots is described in the following
>article
>http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/specials/article.2006-04-10.1693298872
>by Sheila Parks Ed.D.
>
>I'm going to be looking into how other places around the US and the world
>make
>the HCPB idea work, how we can adapt existing systems to our conditions
>rather
>than having to reinvent them, and how imagination can make it all our own.
>
>We don't have a lot of time. I hope we can make it work.
>
>All paper, no machines.
>
>Bruce McNaughton

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