Re: Hand Counting: How Possible Is It for This Year?

[Evan Daniel Ravitz <evan@xxxxxxxx>]

If I remember right, scanning systems were even slightly more
accurate than hand counting, which was 2nd.

Evan

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Joe Pezzillo wrote:

>
> Bo-
>
> Strange though it may sound in this day and age of putting high-tech
> spacecraft on Mars, didn't the CalTech/MIT study find that hand counted
> paper ballots were the most accurate? Some technologies endure for a
> reason, right? I'd vote for some new energy technology before new
> elections technology, personally.
>
> Do you support the idea of a statistically valid sample hand-count to
> verify the machines?
>
> In either event, I agree that it is crucial to get more people involved
> in our elections.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:26 AM, delta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > All this "hand" counting and "hand" marking.......
> > Does it strike anyone else as a pretty Luddite type of stance??
> >
> > how about coming up with *constructive* ways to make technology work
> > *for*
> > us rather than agin' us?
> > I fail to see where a buncha tired, retired and unemployed people (the
> > volunteers who would be doing the hand counting after polls close)
> > would be
> > more accurate than an impartial machine scanner.
> > *That* should be the focus........moving us into the future with
> > secure,
> > verifiable and accurate technology.
> > NOT returning us to technology of 200 years ago.
> >
> > Bo
> >
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> > Subject: Hand Counting: How Possible Is It for This Year?
> >
> >
> >> Evan,
> >>
> >> I appreciate your commitment to the simplest possible solution, and
> >> one
> > that
> >> is demonstrably considered the most effective by the authors of the
> >> Cal
> >> Tech/MIT study on voting systems.
> >>
>