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Re: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in DC
- To: "David L. Dill" <elections@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in DC
- From: "David L. Dill" <elections@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 08:45:47 -0700
- Cc: AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx, "'Andrew G. Silver'" <andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "'Citizens for Verifiable Voting'" <cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Bob Mcgrath'" <bob.mcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Carol Mehesy'" <cmehesy@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Donna Plutschuck'" <donna@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Monty Lambie'" <mlambie@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Pete Klammer'" <PKlammer@xxxxxxx>, "'Peter Raich'" <peter.raich@xxxxxxxx>, "'Tracy Abell'" <TresCeeA@xxxxxxx>
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> Great, there is a proposal that MIGHT be adopted in Boulder. And a
> fine proposal it is. Best of luck.
Correction: Great, there is a proposal that has been adopted in Boulder.
> Meanwhile, you are working to sabotage a year and a half of others
> hard work. You don't have a federal bill with these provisions.
> You're saying that people should support nothing at the Federal level
> so that things will stay really bad, so that we can all feel awful and
> will be more motivated to get a perfect bill in the future. This is
> just a recipe for no bill, ever.
>
> 4 of the 5 bills in the House and Senate are good bills that will
> greatly improve the integrity of our elections, maybe even in Colorado,
> but certainly in other states.
>
> You're entitled to your opinion, but I hope other people will disregard
> it. Or, at least, not join you in trying to undermine our work.
>
> Dave
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > As you well know, CAMBER has presented an option. It has been adopted in
> > Boulder Colorado, and we are working hard to get it adopted in other
> > counties. It is straightforward, and we know that it works.
> >
> > =================================================
> >
> > CAMBER Option for voting in the 2004 elections
> >
> > 1. Do not use electronic ballots.
> > 2. Since absentee voters use full-ballot-text paper ballots, print
> > additional copies of each paper ballot style.
> > 3. Election Day, early, and provisional voters are issued a paper ballot
> > (from step 2 above).
> > 4. Voters must mark their votes on the paper ballot (see note 2 below).
> > 5. Voters can verify that their marks are correct.
> > 6. Voters may exchange a spoiled ballot for a replacement ballot.
> > 7. Voters must cast their anonymous ballot into a locked ballot box.
> >
> > Notes:
> >
> > a. The voter verified paper ballot is the only ballot and it is the ballot
> > of count, recount, audit and record.
> >
> > b. Vote marking equipment that does not create electronic ballots may be
> > used to mark the ballots in step 4 above. This equipment can provide
> > private voting for disabled voters, and increases vote interpretation
> > quality.
> >
> > c. Every paper ballot must contain the full-ballot-text, so that voters can
> > make their selections and verify their votes in context.
> >
> > d. The Colorado Secretary of State has placed a moratorium on the purchase
> > of paperless DRE voting equipment.
> >
> > ====================================================
> >
> >
> > Al Kolwicz
> > Executive Director
> >
> > CAMBER
> > Citizens for Accurate Mail Ballot Election Results
> > 2867 Tincup Circle
> > Boulder, CO 80305
> > 303-494-1540
> > AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx
> > www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz
> > http://coloradovoter.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: election@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:election@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of David L. Dill
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:40 PM
> > To: AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: 'Andrew G. Silver'; lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Citizens for Verifiable Voting; Bob Mcgrath;
> > Carol Mehesy; Donna Plutschuck; Monty Lambie; Pete Klammer; Peter Raich;
> > Tracy Abell; election@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in
> > DC
> >
> >
> > Please do not follow Al Kolwicz' terrible advice. It is true that no
> > bill is perfect, and that it can be difficult to decide when to
> > compromise. Before Al rejects the options that are on the table, he
> > should give us some better options, and provide some evidence that he
> > has a strategy that will succeed. A choice between partial success
> > and failure is an easy choice, at least for me.
> >
> > There are many different problems with elections. If we can solve
> > some of them, we can then focus on those that remain. One of those
> > problems is that paperless electronic voting lacks the original
> > records that could be used to double-check the equipment or resolve
> > disputes. All of the Federal bills in the house and senate solve
> > these problems.
> >
> > In addition, several of them mandate random surprise recounts in
> > between .5% and 2% of the precincts. Most bills make clear that if
> > there is a discrepancy between a paper ballot and the electronic
> > records, the paper ballots take precedence.
> >
> > Furthermore, once paper is required, the attraction of costly DREs
> > will fade. Many jurisdictions are now choosing optical scan machines
> > rather than DREs. This trend will probably continue.
> >
> > Senator Ensign's recently introduced bill, S. 2437, has the following
> > language:
> >
> > `(iv) The individual permanent paper records produced under clause
> > (i) shall be used as the official records for purposes of any recount
> > or audit conducted with respect to any election for Federal office in
> > which the voting system is used.'
> >
> > This would seem to preclude the use of electronic records in a recount.
> >
> > Progress in one area does not have to de-motivate people from solving
> > problems in other areas. Indeed, it will have the opposite effect,
> > because we will be able to focus attention on those other problems.
> >
> > 18 months ago, there was little momentum towards any solution to the
> > electronic voting problem. Indeed, there was little recognition that
> > a problem even existed. We brought the issue to the press and the
> > public, and we can now see the momentum that has been created. We can
> > do the same thing with other election issues.
> >
> > David Dill
> > Founder of VerifiedVoting.org
> >
> >
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > >
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> > > charset="us-ascii"
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> > >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please don't succumb to current legislative proposals because you believe
> > > they are, "the best we can get at this date."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The instant these ineffective proposals would become law, it would
> > > strengthen the enemies of voter verified paper ballots as the ballot of
> > > count, recount, audit and record.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It would likely take years before the public would be ready to reconsider
> > > the issue. The wrong candidates and issues would win elections.
> > > Manipulation and errors would go undetected.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To silence critics, it is human nature for officials to do something
> > > (anything) even though it does not solve the problem. AS long as nothing
> > is
> > > done, the issue stays open.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Public understanding of the issue is much easier while there is no paper
> > > record than it would be if there is a paper record that is not the
> > official
> > > record of votes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Implementation of the proposed legislation will not result in
> > > trustworthy elections.
> > > 2. Implementation of the proposed legislation will result in reduc
ed
> > > voter confidence - the lurking question will be, "I wonder who would have
> > > won if we counted the votes that are recorded on paper?"
> > > 3. Once implemented, it will be more difficult for us to convince
the
> > > public that, "To avoid fraud and manipulation, electronic voting systems
> > > must use a voter verified paper ballot as the ballot of count, recount,
> > > audit and record."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hang in there and demand what is right. The legislators don't want to do
> > > the wrong thing. Don't help the enemy win the battle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Al Kolwicz
> > >
> > > Executive Director
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CAMBER
> > >
> > > Citizens for Accurate Mail Ballot Election Results
> > >
> > > 2867 Tincup Circle
> > >
> > > Boulder, CO 80305
> > >
> > > 303-494-1540
> > >
> > > AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz
> > >
> > > http://coloradovoter.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Andrew G. Silver [mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:21 AM
> > > To: lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [stopvotefraud] Re:June 2-4 "Take Back America Conference" in DC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > About three people have sent me Howard Dean's message, but I think
> > > not to either email list. I had not realized before that Dean is
> > > really pressing the v-vpat issue, and think it is important that we
> > > all know. I have gone to the website given in the message, signed
> > > the petition, and joined DFA.
> > >
> > > I recognize that the DFA position is not as adequate and unequivocal
> > > as that of CAMBER and the Libertarian Party. But for the November
> > > election, I advocate supporting HR 2239 and S1980, the best we can
> > > get at this date, and then continue at the elections to demand audits
> > > and recounts where we can. The one leaflet that I shall prepare will
> > > be focused on supporting HR 2239 and S 1980, but also mention that
> > > the paper ballot should be the vote of record.
> > >
> > > For those of us going to the conference, I am told that DFA is
> > > getting together at 5 PM Friday. I hope that all of us in these
> > > groups who are attending can meet then. I shall prepare a
> > > supplemental name badge for myself with "verifiedvoting.org" and
> > > "stopfvotefraud@yahoogroups" printed on it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Howard Dean has sent this message to his mailing list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >In order for your vote to affect the outcome of this election, it
> > > >must be counted. As November nears we must act now to ensure that
> > > >our voting systems produce accurate and verifiable results.
> > > >
> > > >Right now, some states are planning to use machines that will not
> > > >allow voters to verify their choices. This means that any flaws in
> > > >the machine or software will never be caught -- and no recount will
> > > >be possible. And the head of the largest e-voting machine company --
> > > >who is a major contributor to George Bush and has promised to
> > > >deliver Ohio to him -- asks that we just trust him.
> > > >
> > > >Today we call on Congress and the states to require any electronic
> > > >voting machine used in this election to produce a paper trail -- one
> > > >that allows voters to verify their choices and officials to conduct
> > > >recounts. Add your name to the call for accountability:
> > > >
> > >
> > ><http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verify>http://www.democracyforamerica.
c
> > > om/verify
> > > >
> > > >We will deliver the petition to Congress and the secretaries of
> > > >state of every state planning to use electronic voting machines.
> > > >
> > > >Please forward this message to everyone you know who wants to see
> > > >that every vote is counted this year. You can also spread the word
> > > >by using our grassroots action center, Organize for America, to
> > > >invite your friends to sign the petition:
> > > >
> > >
> > ><http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verifyinvite>http://www.democracyforam
e
> > > rica.com/verifyinvite
> > > >
> > > >Casting a vote is the most fundamental action we take as citizens.
> > > >But voting is not a symbolic act -- the last presidential election
> > > >demonstrated that every vote matters. Our responsibility in the
> > > >months before November is to ensure that this time, every vote will
> > > >be counted.
> > > >
> > > >Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >Governor Howard Dean, M.D.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Andrew G. Silver
> > > >To:
> > >
> > ><mailto:lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
o
> > > rg
> > > >; <mailto:stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:25 AM
> > > >Subject: [VerifiedVoting.org lobbyists] June 2-4 "Take Back America
> > > >Conference" in DC
> > > >
> > > >For information on the conference see
> > > ><http://www.ourfuture.org>www.ourfuture.org.
> > > >
> > > >I shall be attending in the hope of having an opportunity to
> > > >influence personally some of the many political activists attending
> > > >-Howard Dean, Julian Bond, Moveon people, Jim Hightower, et al.
> > > >Though the agenda is very long, they seem to have forgotten about
> > > >verified voting and voter protection. If anyone else primarily is
> > > >advocating for these issues is going, could you let me know, so that
> > > >we could try to pool our resources and strategies?
> > > >--
> > > >Defending Freedom and Democracy,
> > > >Andy Silver
> > > >Hillsborough, NC
> > > >phone/fax: (919) 245-0277 (h)
> > > >(919) 380-9860, x2405 (o, 9:30 AM - 6:30 PM)
> > > >--
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> > > Andy Silver
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> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Please =
> > > don’t
> > > succumb to current legislative proposals because you believe they are, =
> > > “the
> > > best we can get at this date.” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>The =
> > > instant
> > > these ineffective proposals would become law, it would strengthen the =
> > > enemies
> > > of <strong><b><font face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-family:"Courier New";
> > > font-weight:normal'>voter verified paper ballots as the ballot of count,
> > > recount, audit and record</span></font></b></strong>. =
> > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>It =
> > > would likely
> > > take years before the public would be ready to reconsider the =
> > > issue. The
> > > wrong candidates and issues would win elections. Manipulation and =
> > > errors
> > > would go undetected. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>To =
> > > silence critics,
> > > it is human nature for officials to do something (anything) even though =
> > > it does
> > > not solve the problem. AS long as nothing is done, the issue stays
=
> > > open.
> > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Public =
> > > understanding
> > > of the issue is much easier while there is no paper record than it would
=
> > > be if there
> > > is a paper record that is not the official record of =
> > > votes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <ol style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D1 type=3D1>
> > > <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 =
> > > lfo2'><font size=3D2
> > > color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
> > > "Courier New"'>Implementation of the proposed legislation will not =
> > > result
> > > in trustworthy elections.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
> > > <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 =
> > > lfo2'><font size=3D2
> > > color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
> > > "Courier New"'>Implementation of the proposed legislation will =
> > > result in
> > > reduced voter confidence – the lurking question will be, =
> > > “I
> > > wonder who would have won if we counted the votes that are recorded
=
> > > on
> > > paper?”<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
> > > <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 =
> > > lfo2'><font size=3D2
> > > color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
> > > "Courier New"'>Once implemented, it will be more difficult for us =
> > > to
> > > convince the public that, <b><span =
> > > style=3D'font-weight:bold'>“</span></b><strong><b><font
> > > face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";font-weight:
> > > normal'>To avoid fraud and manipulation, electronic voting systems =
> > > must
> > > use a voter verified paper ballot as the ballot of count, recount, =
> > > audit
> > > and record</span></font></b></strong><b><span =
> > > style=3D'font-weight:bold'>.”</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></
=
> > > li>
> > > </ol>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p
=
> > > >
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Hang in
=
> > > there
> > > and demand what is right. The legislators don’t want to do =
> > > the
> > > wrong thing. Don’t help the enemy win the battle. =
> > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 =
> > > color=3Dblack
> > > face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
> > > color:black'>Al Kolwicz</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2
> > > color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
> > > color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'>Executive
> > > Director <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
> > > New"><span
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'>CAMBER<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'>Citizens for Accurate Mail Ballot Election =
> > > Results<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address =
> > > w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2
> > > face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>2867
> > > Tincup Circle</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font size=3D2
> > > face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font =
> > > size=3D2
> > > face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New"'>Boulder</span></font></st1:City><font
> > > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>,
> > > <st1:State w:st=3D"on">CO</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode =
> > > w:st=3D"on">80305</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font
> > > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
> > > New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'>303-494-1540<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'><a href=3D"mailto:AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx";
> > > title=3D"mailto:AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx";>AlKolwicz@xxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></
=
> > > span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'><a =
> > > href=3D"http://www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz";
> > > title=3D"http://www.users.qwest.net/~alkolwicz";>www.users.qwest.net/~alko
=
> > > lwicz</a>
> > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:"Courier New"'><a href=3D"http://coloradovoter.blogspot.com";
> > > title=3D"http://coloradovoter.blogspot.com";>http://coloradovoter.blogspot
=
> > > .com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:
> > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:
> > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <div>
> > >
> > > <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font =
> > > size=3D3
> > > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>
> > >
> > > <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>
> > >
> > > </span></font></div>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> > > font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
> > > size=3D2
> > > face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
> > > Andrew G. Silver
> > > [mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] <br>
> > > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 31, =
> > > 2004 10:21
> > > AM<br>
> > > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
> > > lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
> > > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [stopvotefraud] =
> > > Re:June
> > > 2-4 "Take Back <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
> > > w:st=3D"on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>
> > > Conference" in DC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> > >
> > > </div>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:
> > > 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
> > >
> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:
> > > 10.0pt'>About three people have sent me Howard Dean's message, but I =
> > > think </span></font></tt><font
> > > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">not to either email list. I had not
=
> > > realized
> > > before that Dean is </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">really pressing the v-vpat issue, and =
> > > think it is
> > > important that we </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">all know. I have gone to the =
> > > website given
> > > in the message, signed </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">the petition, and joined =
> > > DFA.</font></tt><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I recognize that the DFA position is not =
> > > as
> > > adequate and unequivocal </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">as that of CAMBER and the Libertarian
> > > Party. But for the November </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">election, I advocate supporting HR 2239 =
> > > and S1980,
> > > the best we can </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">get at this date, and then continue at =
> > > the
> > > elections to demand audits </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">and recounts where we can. The one =
> > > leaflet
> > > that I shall prepare will </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">be focused on supporting HR 2239 =
> > > and S 1980,
> > > but also mention that </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">the paper ballot should be the vote of =
> > > record.</font></tt><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">For those of us going to the conference, =
> > > I am told
> > > that DFA is </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">getting together at 5 PM Friday. I =
> > > hope that
> > > all of us in these </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">groups who are attending can meet =
> > > then. I
> > > shall prepare a </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">supplemental name badge for myself with
> > > "verifiedvoting.org" and </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier =
> > > New">"stopfvotefraud@yahoogroups"
> > > printed on it.</font></tt><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Howard Dean has sent this message to =
> > > his
> > > mailing list.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>In order for your vote to affect the =
> > > outcome
> > > of this election, it </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>must be counted. As November nears we
=
> > > must act
> > > now to ensure that </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>our voting systems produce accurate =
> > > and
> > > verifiable results.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Right now, some states are planning =
> > > to use
> > > machines that will not </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>allow voters to verify their choices.
=
> > > This
> > > means that any flaws in </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>the machine or software will never be
=
> > > caught
> > > -- and no recount will </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>be possible. And the head of the =
> > > largest
> > > e-voting machine company -- </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>who is a major contributor to George =
> > > Bush and
> > > has promised to </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>deliver <st1:State =
> > > w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Ohio</st1:place></st1:State>
> > > to him -- asks that we just trust him.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Today we call on Congress and the =
> > > states to
> > > require any electronic </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>voting machine used in this election =
> > > to
> > > produce a paper trail -- one </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>that allows voters to verify their =
> > > choices and
> > > officials to conduct </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>recounts. Add your name to the call =
> > > for
> > > accountability:</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">><<a
> > > href=3D"http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verify";>http://www.democracyfo
=
> > > ramerica.com/verify</a>><a
> > > href=3D"http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verify";>http://www.democracyfo
=
> > > ramerica.com/verify</a></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>We will deliver the petition to =
> > > Congress and
> > > the secretaries of </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>state of every state planning to use
> > > electronic voting machines.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Please forward this message to =
> > > everyone you
> > > know who wants to see </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>that every vote is counted this year.
=
> > > You can
> > > also spread the word </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>by using our grassroots action =
> > > center,
> > > Organize for <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
> > > w:st=3D"on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
> > > to </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>invite your friends to sign the =
> > > petition:</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">><<a
> > > href=3D"http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verifyinvite";>http://www.democ
=
> > > racyforamerica.com/verifyinvite</a>><a
> > > href=3D"http://www.democracyforamerica.com/verifyinvite";>http://www.democ
=
> > > racyforamerica.com/verifyinvite</a></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Casting a vote is the most =
> > > fundamental action
> > > we take as citizens. </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>But voting is not a symbolic act -- =
> > > the last
> > > presidential election </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>demonstrated that every vote matters.
=
> > > Our
> > > responsibility in the </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>months before November is to ensure =
> > > that this
> > > time, every vote will </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>be counted.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Thank you.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Governor Howard Dean, =
> > > M.D.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>----- Original Message =
> > > -----</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>From:
> > > <mailto:andrewgsilver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Andrew G. =
> > > Silver</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>To: </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier =
> > > New">><mailto:lobbyists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>lobbyists@lists
=
> > > .verifiedvoting.org
> > > </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>;
> > > <mailto:stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>stopvotefraud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=
> > > </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:25 =
> > > AM</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Subject: [VerifiedVoting.org =
> > > lobbyists] June
> > > 2-4 "Take Back America </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Conference" in =
> > > DC</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>For information on the conference see
=
> > > </font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">><<a =
> > > href=3D"http://www.ourfuture.org";>http://www.ourfuture.org</a>>www.our
=
> > > future.org.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>I shall be attending in the hope of =
> > > having an
> > > opportunity to</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>influence personally some of the many
=
> > > political
> > > activists attending</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>-Howard Dean, Julian Bond, Moveon =
> > > people, Jim
> > > Hightower, et al.</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Though the agenda is very long, they =
> > > seem to
> > > have forgotten about</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>verified voting and voter =
> > > protection. If
> > > anyone else primarily is</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>advocating for these issues is going,
=
> > > could
> > > you let me know, so that</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>we could try to pool our resources =
> > > and
> > > strategies?</font></tt><br>
> > > <tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>--</font></tt><br>
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