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Re: Fwd: Citizens in the Dark
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:45:39PM -0600, Ralph Shnelvar wrote:
> I am terribly sorry but I have first hand experience with vote fraud.
>
> As you all know by now, I'm a Libertarian so I don't particularly care which
> of the two major parties gets into power. They both are equaling appalling
> to me.
>
> Several years ago I was walking a district for a friend in Colorado Springs.
> I was working off of an official voter registration list.
>
> Here's the fact: a good 5% of the addresses on the voter registration list
> for three precincts did not exist. I couldn't deliver my packet of
> information because there was no house at the address listed.
>
> Form your own conclusion.
I conclude that the bureaucrats in the county elections office do a really
shoddy job of data entry. People doing sloppy work is much more common
than criminality.
>
>
>
> We are all interested in the legitimacy of the vote. When our county
> officials and our voting machine vendors ask for our trust, we all sniff.
>
> Why is it that there are people asking us to believe random individuals who
> show up at the polls that they are entitled to vote?
>
> As some wit has noted, we ask for more identification from people who want
> to cash a $5 check than we do of those who want to vote.
>
> Ralph Shnelvar
The weasel word in the report is 'significant'. When there is a 60/40
divide in the electorate, it takes an awful lot of fraud for it to
become 'significant'. But with a 50.5/49.5 divide, an amount of fraud
that is impossible to detect becomes 'significant'. (If the Republicans
would just not vote the increased spread would make whatever fraud
there is be insignificant ;-)
In my opinion, the best way to eliminate fraud in registration is to
eliminate the picky rules about criminal record, citizenship, residency,
etc. But also eliminate absentee voting, mail-in ballots, and insist
that people show up at the precinct polling place to vote a paper ballot.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:49:10 -0600, you wrote:
>
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> >From: PFAW Activist Network <alerts@xxxxxxxx>
> >Date: Oct 19, 2006 8:40 AM
> >Subject: Citizens in the Dark
> >To: Margit Johansson <margitjo@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
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> >According to *USA Today*, a new report shows there is no evidence that
> >significant numbers of voters are lying about their identity at the polls,
> >voting twice or voting in the name of dead people. Yet across the country,
> >burdensome voter ID bills and other legislation that disenfranchises
> >eligible voters are being justified by this made-up epidemic. We deserve to
> >know which threats are real and which threats are imaginary.
> >
> >*Please petition the Elections Assistance Commission to release its report
> >on voter fraud!
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> >*http://www.ReleaseTheReport.com*<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208151813989333536584265>
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> >*Dear* *Margit**,
> >
> >*
> >
> >You've heard the expression, "the cure is worse than the disease." Well
> >that's especially true when you don't even have the disease in question!
> >
> >Right-wing members of Congress and state legislators have been passing
> >onerous laws that make it harder for citizens to vote. Despite erecting
> >barriers to the ballot box and disenfranchising voters, they've claimed
> >these laws are necessary to stop rampant voter fraud.
> >
> >Thanks to a press leak, it is now public that the US Elections Assistance
> >Commission (EAC) commissioned a report to find out about voter fraud.
> >According to *USA
> >Today*<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208154313989333536584265>,
> >the EAC's report shows that there is no evidence that significant numbers of
> >voters are lying about their identity at the polls, voting twice, or voting
> >in the name of dead people. Let me repeat that: NO EVIDENCE.
> >
> >While this has long been suspected by those of us who have fought
> >discriminatory attempts to address "voter fraud" (e.g. voter ID bills that
> >would, in effect, create a poll tax for poor, elderly and minority citizens
> >who don't have or need government issued ID in their regular lives), the EAC
> >report makes it official: voter fraud does not present a health risk to our
> >democracy. That is, it *would* be official if the EAC had released it. ? But
> >it won't release it.
> >
> >*Please petition the EAC to release the report at
> >http://www.ReleaseTheReport.com<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208152613989333536584265>
> >**!*
> >
> >Across the country, states have been introducing legislation requiring
> >voters to show identification before voting, preventing eligible voters from
> >casting ballots. Indeed, the US Congress has tried to pass national Voter ID
> >legislation four times in the last four months ? all in the name of stopping
> >the one electoral cancer from which we don't appear to be suffering. Worse,
> >the mostly Republican legislators who are pushing such "prescriptions" are
> >more like doctors who are getting kickbacks for prescribing cancer drugs to
> >healthy people, insofar as they are keeping away from the polls voters who
> >tend to cast ballots for the other party.
> >
> >*Sign the petition<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208154413989333536584265>to
> >the EAC urging that this report be released and that hearings be held
> >on
> >its findings. We deserve to know which threats are real and which threats
> >are imaginary.*
> >
> >*http://www.ReleaseTheReport.com<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M7208153213989333536584265>
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