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Re: Fwd: GOP vote fraud front group dies
What's gleeful about following the actions of possible crooks/ traitors? The only heartening aspect of the tragic situation with our elections is when there is actually some mainstream media attention to what is going on. I'm gleefully committed to distributing evidence of individual vote fraud, if you come up with it.
Cheers.
Margit
PS Why are the penalties for individual fraud higher in CO state law than for tampering with machines which could result in faking MANY votes. Tupa told me this year he didn't want to make the latter a felony because he didn't think such transgressions existed. Heads in the sand don't solve anything.
On 5/23/07, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Friends:
I find this gleeful Republican-bashing rather distasteful and
counterproductive.
Let us address, though, the issue of voter fraud.
This group wants fair, honest, and open elections because we fear the
possibility fraud in the electronics.
Whether fraud actually exists in electronic voting, the issue is that it
could. Many of us programmers and technologists understand how easy it is
to bury fraud into the programming or into the hardware.
Thus most of us want either hand-counted paper ballots or open software.
I'm on the side of hand-counted paper ballots.
On the other side is the issue of voter fraud at the individual level. If
there is no checking of registration, etc., how long will it be before
people cheat? Is that what we want?
I have the following story. In (roughly) 2003, I worked a campaign down in
Colorado Springs in which I went door-to-door precinct-by-precinct working
off of a list of registered voters. I was to give a packet of information
to the Republican registered voters. (I was promoting a Republican
candidate.)
About 5% of the addresses on that list didn't exist.
You can name your culprit. The local Republican machine? The local
Democrats who wanted to screw with Republican politics?
I don't know and, as a Libertarian, I don't care.
But I do care that a substantial number of people who were not supposed to
vote, could. Those people weren't dead. They were either manufactured by
someone or there was gross incompetence in data entry. I did find a handful
of those kinds of errors where people where supposed to live on X Street
but, instead, lived on X Court.
Nonetheless, the lack of checking of a voter's legitimacy is wrong. We may
not have a problem now but do we really want what I found to have happened
in Colorado Springs to happen everywhere?
Ralph Shnelvar
On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:40:34 -0500, you wrote:
>Sorry if this is duplicate information; it's hard to tell who this was sent
>to.
>Margit
>
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>From: Cary Lacklen <cclacklen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: May 22, 2007 4:11 PM
>Subject: GOP vote fraud front group dies
>To: cclacklen@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>>Cary thought you would like this site at truthout.org regarding the
>>demise of the GOP front group: American Center for Voting Rights.
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>>http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052207E.shtml
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